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Please can you help me with WWI Report;

May 31, 2017 at 09:06 PM

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I have a WWI Report for specification that we call core dossier, but when pulling the report through transaction cg02 the files that were uploaded and attached do not always appear. It all depends on the size of the attached file and the amount as well. My question is is there a limit on the size or quantity of files that can be attached? Do you know how I can solve this problem?

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Christoph Bergemann Jun 18, 2017 at 07:06 AM
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Hello Raquel

1.) what kind offiles are yout talkng about ? Inbound Safety Data sheets?

2.) In any case: there is (in theory) nolimit on "pages". But ot is known that performance etc will decrease if we have 100 pages (or more) for WWI process

C.B.

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HI Christoph and thanks for your answer.

The files which go into the WWI Report are pulled from the raw materials (in “exact composition”). The files which get pulled include SDS, TDS, micro, palm oil, animal testing and other.

Usually each raw material would have one document in about five of these folders. Therefore, 10 raw materials would contribute 50 files to the finished product wwi report. This is roughly the threshold which causes the files to disappear altogether.

Thanks and I am waiting your response,

RF

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Hello Raquel

still your answer "confuse" me a little bit, I list now what I can "understand" and my questons

1.) You have a WWI layout defined

2.) WWI Layout is using property "exact composition"

3.) So you know now which "Spec" is part of the "Exact composition"

4.) You are now using the "Component" found and then "read" some documents on component level and you are trying to combine all the documents in one big document

Here are my questions
1.) On component level: in which property are the "user defined text documents" stored? (or what is here the "real" story: How do you collect "the document")

2.) Which user defined text type are you using) Do you use one per "document" type" ? one for SDS, one for Animal, etc.

3.) Most "confusing" is the "SDS" part. YOU CAN NOT (or you should not) collect SDS using this approach (e.g. REACH and other reasons)- You can only collect if the document is of type "pdf" (and even in this case I have doubts)

High level: you try to have a "big" document on REAL_SUB level which "combines" any document on "component" level..

Never heard about such an requirement. In most cases at max companies try to "combine" any document on "REAL_SUB" level somehow in one "big" WWI docuemnt. But even this is unknown to me (any docuemnt is handled in parallel; SDS, Animal etc. But not try to "collect"anything on component level

To make it clear: looking on REACH SDS documents. I have seen such document having 200 or more pages (no joke !!) If you have 5 components and any of the component would have 200 pages you create a "Very big book"

Here WWI will clearly crash. Even using the "200 pages" of one SDS REACH documen can be a "nightmare" fo WWI process. , but to combine 1000 (or more pages) in one document: No chance. I can not imagine that WWI process will manage this kind of document (the reason is not WWI; but WinWord)

So main question is: whta is teh "real" need to have such document? Will this document be "read" by somebody (1000 pages??) and if so why..?

Quite interesting demand you have here

C.B.

PS: why can you not collect the "raw data" from component level? Why do you try to collect "the document(s)"?

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Thanks for your answer!!

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Hello Christoph, thanks!!

Let me try answer here.

1.) You have a WWI layout defined - RF: Correct.

2.) WWI Layout is using property "exact composition" - RF: Correct

3.) So you know now which "Spec" is part of the "Exact composition" RF: Correct

4.) You are now using the "Component" found and then "read" some documents on component level and you are trying to combine all the documents in one big document.

Here are my questions
1.) On component level: in which property are the "user defined text documents" stored? (or what is here the "real" story: How do you collect "the document")

RF: Yes, I have WWI layout defined and this report like a dossier and we attach all available documents (certi from each of the specifications in Exact Comp.Base Prod) we have mass upload by JOB.

2.) Which user defined text type are you using. Do you use one per "document" type" ? one for SDS, one for Animal, etc.

RF: All the documents are in pdf format for SDS, Animal, etc.

3.) Most "confusing" is the "SDS" part. YOU CAN NOT (or you should not) collect SDS using this approach (e.g. REACH and other reasons)- You can only collect if the document is of type "pdf" (and even in this case I have doubts).

In fact this WWI template report was created a year ago, the report almost attaches all documents and certificates available by component. For example I have a specification with 10 components, for each component I will have a file with SDS, TDS, Certificate of analysis, palm oil and etc. In total I have more than 100 or more files attached to my report. At the time I generated this report, some attached files do not appear My doubt and I believe there should be a limitation, what is the size limit of a WWI report? And how many files could I attach?

According to your explanation that kind of report we have here, we're going to have a crash, I mean there's a limit.

PS: I found this SAP notes on this subject 1766377 - EHS&S WWI: Maximum file size.

But I don´t know this note can solve the problem.. There really is not much information about it.

Thanks againg for your time and help.

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Dear Raqeul

still you did not provde an "detailed" answer to my questions

1.) You have a WWI layout defined - RF: Correct. ==> here we are now "aligned"

2.) WWI Layout is using property "exact composition" - RF: Correct ==> here we are now "aligned"

3.) So you know now which "Spec" is part of the "Exact composition" RF: Correct ==> here we are now "aligned"

4.) You are now using the "Component" found and then "read" some documents on component level and you are trying to combine all the documents in one big document.

Here are my questions
1.) On component level: in which property are the "user defined text documents" stored? (or what is here the "real" story: How do you collect "the document")

RF: Yes, I have WWI layout defined and this report like a dossier and we attach all available documents (certi from each of the specifications in Exact Comp.Base Prod) we have mass upload by JOB.

==> here we are "NOT" aligned. What user defined text do you use? one for SDS, one for "Animal" etc.??

2.) Which user defined text type are you using. Do you use one per "document" type" ? one for SDS, one for Animal, etc.

RF: All the documents are in pdf format for SDS, Animal, etc. ==> understood

3.) Most "confusing" is the "SDS" part. YOU CAN NOT (or you should not) collect SDS using this approach (e.g. REACH and other reasons)- You can only collect if the document is of type "pdf" (and even in this case I have doubts).

In fact this WWI template report was created a year ago, the report almost attaches all documents and certificates available by component. For example I have a specification with 10 components, for each component I will have a file with SDS, TDS, Certificate of analysis, palm oil and etc. In total I have more than 100 or more files attached to my report. At the time I generated this report, some attached files do not appear My doubt and I believe there should be a limitation, what is the size limit of a WWI report? And how many files could I attach?

=> first part understood; second part: as explained. I am pretty sure that WWI will "crash" if you try to collect pdf files as part of WWI using this "big" amount of data; there "might" be a chance (NOT SURE) if you would collect "RFT" based files. The issue is as: WWI uses "WinWord". And WinWord using "OLE" techniques to "insert" pdf files. I know (form working with Winword (not taliing about WWI) that WinWord is "crachaing, if you have to many "links" to documents and WinWord must "read" the "emebedded" documents

1766377 - EHS&S WWI: Maximum file size => need to check the note; But the "issue" is: you try to collect "pdf". Here i have doubts (stability of Winword):

Honestly. IN your case > 99% i am sure WWI will always "crash".

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