on 12-13-2006 2:45 AM
Starting a forum thread for those of us who are upgrading to SCM 5.0 Please comment on the scope and/or challenges of your project. Please post any advice.
Our upgrade project begins in January. We will migrate from SCM 4.0 SP 18 to 5.0. Integrated with R/3 4.6C and NetWeaver BI.
I expect our primary challenges will be the evaluation of existing customer exit logic. Also we plan for several waves of integration tests.
Regards,
Mike
We are also upgrading to 5.0.....The follwing challenges and problems we have faced so far..
We have received many errors and it was really pain to go thruogh each and every error....top of that APO is not giving you vary specific error or some times there are no verbitze for the error..
Follow the steps below will help you lot
Extract the time series to an Info cube before the upgrade
Upgrade the system
De-initialie and Reinitialize the DP/SNP Planning area
Reload the Time series following the upgrade
Adjust the Like profiles
If Old like profile to be used then must assign the planning area to every like profile
If Existing LIKE profile cannot be assigned to several planning area, You must create the LIKE profile for second planning area manuallt with new name
Adjust the Phase-In/Out profile
If Existing Phase-In/Out profile cannot be assigned to several planning area, You must create the Phase-In/Out profile for second planning area manuallt with new name
Adjust the assignment table ( /SAPAPO/FCST_LC was replaced by /SAPAPO/FCST_LC1)
Activate all Infocubes by executing the RSDG_CUBE_ACTIVATE report
Check/Adjust the palnning area Data source
Convert the Note Anchor tables - Execute /SAPAPO/TS_NOTES_CONVERT_40 Report
If inconsistence - execute /SAPAPO/TS_GEN_DOCTAB_CHECK report
Check the converted notes for interactive planning
You must create the DB tables for the planning object structure/planning area - using taransction /SAPAPO/RLGCOPY
Realignment and copying steps must be stored in new DB tables
Adjust planning object ID with /SAPAPO/TS_D_OBJECTS_COPY
Use report ZZZ_MACROS_CONS_CHECK to activate the Macros
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Some iprovement of SAP 5.0 regarding on MACROs are:
-Total Forecast
-Ship and forecast differences/variances
-Calculate percentage variance
-Manual correction field output only in past
-Zero out future forecast (e.g Monthly)
-Zero out future manual correction (e.g Monthly)
-Alert macro less than 100 and more than 100
Another improvements also Production Planner will be transfered from R/3 MRP Controller througgh CIF but the pre-requisite is production planner should exist in APO.
A lot more customizations in alert notofication engine.(e.g CIF errors are sent to users inbox through the function CIF post processing alerts.
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Mike,
Could you please forward media details for SCM 5.1.
I appreciate your help.
Regards,
Edited by: Seshu Enturi on Apr 10, 2008 9:15 PM
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HI Mike
Can u give me brief about upgradtion process step by step
we are Starting upgradation process SCM 4.0 to SCM 5.0 Please comment on the scope and/or challenges of the project. Please post any advice.
Our upgrade project begins in January. We will migrate from SCM 4.0 SP 18 to 5.0.
plz advice me
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Hello All,
I have successfully completed the upgrade from APO 3.0A to SCM 5.0. Module implemented was - Demand Planning and VMI.
We faced few issues related to APO-BI related to Nav. Attributes.
Peformance issue while loading the data back to LC.
Useful SAP Notes for the upgrade.
Important OSS Notes for our refrence
505930 - Activities after upgrading from APO 3.0 to 3.1 in DP
588986 - Demand Planning actions after upgrade to SCM 4.0
684929 - Actions in DP after upgrade to Release SCM 4.1
832393 - Release Restrictions for SCM 5
853797 - Actions to perform in DP after you upgrade to SCM 5.0
906789 - BW Related
534894 BW Related
892482 BW Related
692369 - Global SNP settings could not be read
With the help of above OSS notes you prepare a checklist of the task to be perform as per the Business process with the category as Pre upgrade activities, During Upgrade (e.g. reload the data from back cube to Live cache etc). and Post upgrade activities.
Before handing over the upgraded system, Please perform the all the task as per the check list sothat Users will be happy to recieve 0% defect upgraded system!!!
All the best for your SCM 5.0 Upgrade projects.
Regards,
Anjali Butley
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Hi Anjali,
I am very happy to read your inputs about your upgrade project APO 3.0 - SCM5.0.
We are planning to do the same thing.
I heard some comments saying: it would not be possible to upgrade APO3.0 to SCM 5.0 directly, you have to upgrade in two steps:
1) APO 3.0 to SCM 4.x
2) and then SCM 5.0
I am not sure it is true. could you please share your experiences with me?
Thank for your response in advance!
Regards,
Sally
Hi Alam,
Config documents for respective APO modules are available under help.sap.com >> Best Practices. Look into the <a href="https://www.sdn.sap.comhttp://www.sdn.sap.comhttp://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/scm/learning+map">learning Map</a> link in SCM Wiki and select the Building Block (Configuration) Library link.
Requesting documents over personal email is not a suggested practice and hence its being removed from your message.
Thanks,
Somnath
Hello Anjali / Somnath,
This is an interesting thread. It may be great to know whether an upgrade to the R/3 system (say to ERP 6.0) has been done in all these scenarios discussed here.
Look forward to your thoughts, incase of a worst case scenario - say upgrade the APO from 3.1 to SCM 5.0 while keeping the R/3 system at 4.5x
Regards,
Sankar
SCM in not on SP10 yet... Activating time series for which planning area?
Ken
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Hi, We are implementing SCM 5.0, but getting Runtime Error, when creating Time Series Objects. We have used SP 10.
Any clue ??
Regards,
Bhavesh
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I am planning to upgrade from APO 3.0a to SCM 5.0 SR2 and have been asked to wait while the APO team looks at SCM 5.1.
Is anyone else considering SCM 5.1?
Thanks
AJ
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Hi All,
Is there any improvement performance wise after the Upgrade from <b>SCM 4.0 to 5.1</b>?
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We have just completed the prepare for 3.1 to 5.0. I have taken my notes from a 3.0-4.1 upgrade and the most recent notes I have found and compiled them into the plan below. So, basically... this is my best guess. Good luck!!
Pre-Upgrade
1) SAP GUI must be upgraded to 640 Patch 21
2) Run /SAPAPO/ADV_UPGRADE_50 program to check macro compatibility
PREPARE STAGE
3) All transports in APQ must be released Verification Only
4) Run RSRV to check number ranges Run RSRV
5) Check number range for infoobject 0REQUID - OSS 961512
6) Execute RSMDCNVEXIT Conversion to Consistent Internal Values - OSS 447341
ALL STEPS IN PREPARE PROGRAM - /SAPAPO/OM_LC_UPGRADE_50
7) Create number range interval for object IB_SYM_ID in 000 and 001 (SNRO - see note 203446)
😎 Allow multiple values for CDP data in 000 and 001 o1cl - see note 699162
9) Run /SAPAPO/OM_CDP_41_PREP_CHECK
10)Run /SAPAPO/OM_CDP_41_PREP
11)Run /SAPAPO/PPM_UTC_PREPARE_DATA02 and convert all PPM's in 000 and 001
12)Run /SAPAPO/PPM_UTC_PREPARE_DATA01 and set status (yes) in 000 and 001
13)Backup DP Planning Area's
14)Validate Planning Area backups
15)Check SNP, DP, and PPDS job streams to make sure they completed successfully
16)Run consistency checks OM17, /SAPAPO/TS_LCM_REORG & /SAPAPO/TS_LCM_CONS_CHECK
UPGRADE
17)Enter DDIC user for the RFC connection to BW OSS 961512
Basis performs upgrade
18)START CIF QUEUES
19)Check that user exits are active
20)call transaction SPAU to adjust modifcations to repository objects
21)Regenerate IMG click on binoculars in IMG and refresh
22)Run /SAPAPO/RCIFRESTART to restart stuck queues
23)Run CIF_DELTA for some same plant \ prod's
24)Live Cache VALIDATION (Orders and Inventory) - STO, Sales Orders Spot checking data against R/3 data
25)Run program /SAPAPO/SCC_WORKAREA_ACTIVATE OSS 621192 - Select "retain work area"
26)Adjust \ recreate variants /SAPAPO/RLCDEL, /SAPAPO/TS_PAREA_INITIALIZ
27)Adjust PA datasources - /SAPAPO/TS_PAREA_EXTR_DS_CHECK OSS 684929
28)Activate delivered objects - /SAPAPO/TS_D_OBJECTS_COPY OSS 684929
29)Activate Infocubes - run report RSDG_CUBE_ACTIVATE OSS - 588986 Choose Object Version D in section Infocube: Options.
30)In Transaction SE11, check whether the 'Initial value' indicator is set for the MAINTPROG and USERAPP fields of the RSTSODS table - if it is not set, proceed as described in Note 914536. OSS 906789
31)run the RSSM_HASH_ENTRIES_CREATE report for all requests (using the corresponding parallel processing). OSS 906789
32)run the RSSTATMAN_CHECK_CONVERT_DTA and RSSTATMAN_CHECK_CONVERT_PSA reports (also using sufficient parallel processing). OSS 906789
33)Activate update rules and transfer rules use program RS_TRANSTRU_ACTIVATE_ALL for transfer rules
34)Validate that R/3 and APO partner profile agreements are active (WE20)
35)Change partner profiles status to A (Active) in Classification tab(WE20)
36)Validate Remote infocube system assignments RSA1
37)Recreate Indexes and Stats on DP Planning Area backup infocubes RSA1
38)Repair sourcesystems in APO and BW RSA1
39)Activate macros by running ZZZ_MACROS_CONS_CHECK OSS 768433
40)Validate validity dates for Time Horizon on the Storage Bucket Profiles, Resources, Planning Areas and Calendars
41)Delete timeseries on DP planning Area's
42)Deactivate DP MPOS's Taking Demand Planning Down
43)Ensure that the fixing and locking functionality is set correctly for the DP planning areas before starting the restore
44)Activate the Master Planning Object Structure (MPOS's)
45)Build Indexes and Stats for MPOS's
46)Re-build the variants for creating CVC's
47)Generate the CC's based off of the backup cubes
48)Build Indexes and Stats for MPOS
49)Create Time Series objects for PA (initialize planning area)
50)Turn off Livecache logging
51)Load DP planning area's from backup infocubes
52)Run planning area consistency checks, /SAPAPO/TS_LCM_CONS_CHECK, /SAPAPO/TS_LCM_REORG
53)Turn on Livecache logging
54)Deactivate compatibility mode for macro books with yellow lights SCM 5.0 Upgrade Guide
55)Convert the note anchor tables- /SAPAPO/TS_NOTES_CONVERT_40 with 'Check Note Anchors' option. OSS 588986
56)If inconsistencies are found on the step above, then this program needs to be executed. /SAPAPO/TS_GEN_DOCTAB_CHECK OSS 588986
57)Run upgrade report for Lifecycle Planning /SAPAPO/RMDP_FCST_LC_UPGRADE OSS 588986
58)Create Variants for Proportional Factor Jobs, then execute the program and validate that they were created correctly.
59)Adjust existing planning board profile for PPDS OSS 644295
60)Update TLB - run /SAPAPO/TLBPRF_TRANS OSS 707828
61)Modify infoobjects 9AMATNR and 9ALOCNO to include med txt instead of short txt RSA1
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Hello Mike and Others,
I have upgraded my APO system from 3.0 to 4.0 and planning now to upgrade again to 5.0.
What I would like to suggest that you need to refer upgrade OSS notes before you start actual upgrade. That has helped me a lot. There are various functional and technical (ABAP/BASIS) notes on upgrade which tell us what are the activities we must do before handing over the system for testing/production.
In fact I had presented a paper on how to do APO upgrade last year which had lot of tips on upgrade.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Vinayak Oak
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Hi,
An upgrade is inevitable given the licensing and the limited support that SAP will provide for older versions. The SCM 5.0 version functionally will be able to cover every functionality that was available in SCM 4.0. If you want to use the additional functionality that is available in SCM 5.0 and scope some work based on that you can take a look at the release notes that is available on help.sap.com in the SCM 5.0 area.
The technical assessment will be available in the "system requirements" that can be located in the service marketplace.
The upgrade master guide will have the technical as well as some of the typical functional steps to be carried out during the upgrade. In addition please check notes OSS "832393 - Release Restrictions for SCM 5.0", "853797 - Actions to perform in DP after you upgrade to SCM 5.0" and "865334 - Upgrade SCM 5.0 Macros in DP and SNP."
Regards,
Pullaiah
Hey vinayak,
Is it possible for you to send the paper you have presented on upgrade.
I would be really grateful to you. my email id is amitarun.sap@gmail.com
Thank you so much even if you took time to read this.
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