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Do anybody know a report which allows me to maintain

a reference userID for multiple users.

I don't want it to be CATT script,LSMW.



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    Posted on Oct 20, 2006 at 04:20 PM

    Hi Keerti,

    It is an easy table and just one field (as I am sure you know), so have you considered popping it in directly?

    You can do this very efficiently from SE16N or SE37.



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    • > True: In the wrong hands it can be critical and the

      > system could be messed up somewhat [...]

      Well, what happens if you've overestimated your own skills ...? From my own experiences made in handling customer cases I can state that noone can mess up a system better than a "semi-expert". Normal users don't dare to "play around" - and therefore cannot cause too much damage. But those that bypass the checks ("because I know what I'm doing") are harmful. It reminds me of those guys that bypass a power switch ... (firemen really like them).

      > So I would consider this exception handling... not

      > manipulation.

      Well, that sort of belittlement I'm referring to.

      Sorry, but I'm sick of getting involved in complex support cases where in the end it turned out that "someone had played around" ...

      In some future release those direct access to tables might be blocked. You'll then have to use APIs to access the data.

      Cheers, Wolfgang

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    Posted on Oct 20, 2006 at 07:38 PM

    Hi both,

    I confused myself besides confusing You guys.

    Our BW team is providing an interlink to our companies

    website and Web Application designer templates.Security

    is maintained at backend.

    So that users can analyze the reports from the internet.

    ofcourse they have to pass logon credentials.

    this project went out couple of weeks before and got a very good feedback and so they want to use it globally.

    this issue will add around 1000 users who are not existing on our systems until now. well they don't know

    or even don't bother what applications are running behind the screen.

    These users won't get into BW or WAD. but they work on analyzing data pulled from BW thru WAD web templates.

    So I was searching various possibilities of reducing the license count.

    I came to know I am going entirely on a wrong side.

    Thanks guys

    by the way

    reference users got lot of issues. these do not show up properly in user info reports(In our system). I have to go for other things to get details.i prefer not using them.

    but if I have to use probablu I would done with SE16N.

    I don't think our auditors will be againist to this


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    • Hi Keerti,

      I don't really understand why you dislike using reference users. The reference user concept was introduced (in 4.6C) to ease the assignment of roles (respectively profiles) to a huge number of users which should be equipped with <u>identical</u> authorizations. That is typical for "internet users".

      By assigning a reference user (which can actually also be considered as "collective role") you assign roles (and profiles) of that reference user (indirectly) also to each user (who is assigned to that reference user).

      That allows to change authorization assignments <u>centrally</u> (for the reference user) instead of looping over a huge number of user master records.

      Well, since "assigning a reference user" is equivalent to "assigning the roles and profiles that are assigned to that reference user", the user management (SU01) performs the equivalent authorization checks (S_USER_AGR, S_USER_PRO, etc.).

      Regards, Wolfgang

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    Posted on Oct 20, 2006 at 09:01 PM

    Using reference users is helpful thing I agree.

    and I also used them.

    these work more better than using composite roles.

    I agree SAP went through lot of improvements.

    but You can try looking at RSUSR070,RSUSR002, etc.

    You won't get any info about the users using reference users.kind of misleading.

    Authorizations from reference users are very well dragged to User buffers.and also saves time for us

    But when You troubleshooting something You have to always keep in mind that You are playing on a system in which

    reference users concept is getting used. besides this I din't tested how they behave during client copies, etc.

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