08-07-2006 5:44 AM
Hi Friends,
I am new to Ale/Edi.Can anybody tell me that what is the diferent b/w ALE and EDI with senarios.
Thanks in advance
siva
08-07-2006 5:46 AM
Differences :
ALE(Application Link Enabling) refers to the losely coupled systems whereas the EDI speaks about the Electronic Document Exchange. We need to enable ALE in order to use the EDI feature. ALE builds the bridge and EDI is the means by which the data moves in and out of the SAP system just like vehicles moving over the bridge. IDOC(Intermediate Documents) are the data containers which will be moving in and out of SAP carrying data.
Thus summarising we need to establish ALE between the systems in order to use EDI between them. In case we need to use EDI between SAP and someother target system then we need a EDI subsystem which understands these IDOCs and converts into the format understood by the target system.
EDI and ALE are typical use cases for IDocs. R/3 uses IDocs for both EDI and ALE to deliver data to the receiving system. ALE is basically the scheduling mechanism that defines when and between which partners and what kind of data will be exchanged on a regular or event triggered basis. Such a set-up is called an ALE-scenario.
The philosophical difference between EDI and ALE can be pinned as follows: If we send data to an external partner, we generally speak of EDI, while ALE is a mechanism to reliable replicate data between trusting systems to store a redundant copy of the IDoc data. The difference is made clear, when we think of a purchase order that is sent as an IDoc. If we send the purchase order to a supplier then the supplier will store the purchase order as a sales order. However, if we send the purchase order via ALE to another R/3 system, then the receiving system will store the purchase order also as a purchase order.
08-07-2006 5:54 AM
Hi Siva,
ALE
Application Link Enabling (ALE) is a mechanism for the exchange of business data between loosely-coupled R/3 applications built by customers of SAP, the enterprise resource management program. ALE provides SAP customers with a program distribution model and technology that enables them to interconnect programs across various platforms and systems.
There are three layers in the ALE system: application services, distribution services, and communication services. The vehicle for data transfer is called an IDoc (intermediate document), which is a container for the application data to be transmitted. After a user performs an SAP transaction, one or more IDocs are generated in the sending database and passed to the ALE communication layer. The communication layer performs a Remote Function Call (RFC), using the port definition and RFC destination specified by the customer model. The IDoc is transmitted to the receiver, which may be an R/3, R/2, or some external system. If the data is distributed from a master system, the same transaction performed by the sender will be performed by the receiving system, using the information contained in the IDoc.
EDI
Short for Electronic Data Interchange, the transfer of data between different companies using networks, such as VANs or the Internet. As more and more companies get connected to the Internet, EDI is becoming increasingly important as an easy mechanism for companies to buy, sell, and trade information. ANSI has approved a set of EDI standards known as the X12 standards.
Also please check this links for more information.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
Hope this will help.
Regards.
Mukesh Kumar
08-07-2006 6:18 AM
Hi,
ALE/ IDOC
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/0b/2a60bb507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/78/217da751ce11d189570000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
http://www.sappoint.com/abap.html
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
ALE Tcodes and Steps
Go through the following Tcode for ALE
ALE IDOC
Sending System(Outbound ALE Process)
Tcode SALE ? for
a) Define Logical System
b) Assign Client to Logical System
Tcode SM59-RFC Destination
Tcode BD64 ? Create Model View
Tcode BD82 ? Generate partner Profiles & Create Ports
Tcode BD64 ? Distribute the Model view
Message Type MATMAS
Tcode BD10 ? Send Material Data
Tcode WE05 ? Idoc List for watching any Errors
Receiving System(Inbound ALE )
Tcode SALE ? for
a) Define Logical System
b) Assign Client to Logical System
Tcode SM59-RFC Destination
Tcode BD64 ? Check for Model view whether it has distributed or not
Tcode BD82 -- Generate partner Profiles & Create Ports
Tcode BD11 Getting Material Data
Tcode WE05 ? Idoc List for inbound status codes
ALE IDOC Steps
Sending System(Outbound ALE Process)
Tcode SALE ?3 for
a) Define Logical System
b) Assign Client to Logical System
Tcode SM59-RFC Destination
Tcode BD64 !V Create Model View
Tcode BD82 !V Generate partner Profiles & Create Ports
Tcode BD64 !V Distribute the Model view
This is Receiving system Settings
Receiving System(Inbound ALE )
Tcode SALE ?3 for
a) Define Logical System
b) Assign Client to Logical System
Tcode SM59-RFC Destination
Tcode BD64 !V Check for Model view whether it has distributed or not
Tcode BD82 -- Generate partner Profiles & Create Ports
Tcode BD11 Getting Material Data
Tcode WE05 !V Idoc List for inbound status codes
Message Type MATMAS
Tcode BD10 !V Send Material Data
Tcode WE05 !V Idoc List for watching any Errors
1)a Goto Tcode SALE
Click on Sending & Receiving Systems-->Select Logical Systems
Here Define Logical Systems---> Click on Execute Button
go for new entries
1) System Name : ERP000
Description : Sending System
2) System Name : ERP800
Description : Receiving System
press Enter & Save
it will ask Request
if you want new request create new Request orpress continue for transfering the objects
B) goto Tcode SALE
Select Assign Client to Logical Systems-->Execute
000--> Double click on this
Give the following Information
Client : ERP 000
City :
Logical System
Currency
Client role
Save this Data
Step 2) For RFC Creation
Goto Tcode SM59-->Select R/3 Connects
Click on Create Button
RFC Destination Name should be same as partner's logical system name and case sensitive to create the ports automatically while generating the partner profiles
give the information for required fields
RFC Destination : ERP800
Connection type: 3
Description
Target Host : ERP000
System No:000
lan : EN
Client : 800
User : Login User Name
Password:
save this & Test it & RemortLogin
3)
Goto Tcode BD64 -- click on Change mode button
click on create moduleview
short text : xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Technical Neme : MODEL_ALV
save this & Press ok
select your just created modelview Name :'MODEL_ALV'.
goto add message type
Model Name : MODEL_ALV
sender : ERP000
Receiver : ERP800
Message type :MATMAS
save & Press Enter
4) Goto Tcode BD82
Give Model View : MODEL_ALV
Partner system : ERP800
execute this by press F8 Button
it will gives you sending system port No :A000000015(Like)
5) Goto Tcode BD64
seelct the modelview
goto >edit>modelview-->distribute
press ok & Press enter
6)goto Tcode : BD10 for Material sending
Material : mat_001
Message Type : MATMAS
Logical System : ERP800
and Execute
7)goto Tcode : BD11 for Material Receiving
Material : mat_001
Message Type : MATMAS
and Execute --> 1 request idoc created for message type Matmas
press enter
Here Master Idoc set for Messge type MATMAS-->press Enter
1 Communication Idoc generated for Message Type
this is your IDOC
Change Pointers
I know how to change the description of a material using ALE Change Pointers.
I will give the following few steps
1) Tcode BD61---> check the change pointers activated check box
save and goback.
2) Tcode BD50---> check the MATMAS check box save and comeback.
3) Tcode BD51---> goto IDOC_INPUT_MATMAS01 select the checkbox save and comeback.
4) Tcode BD52---> give message type : matmas press ok button.
select all what ever you want and delete remaining fields.
save & come back.
5) 5) go to Tcode MM02 select one material and try to change the description and save it
it will effects the target systems material desciption will also changes
6) goto Tcode SE38 give program Name is : RBDMIDOC and Execute
give Message type : MATMAS and Executte
ALE/IDOC Status Codes/Messages
-
01 Error --> Idoc Added
30 Error --> Idoc ready for dispatch(ALE Service)
then goto SE38 --> Execute the Program RBDMIDOC
29 Error --> ALE Service Layer
then goto SE38 --> Execute the Program RSEOUT00
03 Error --> Data Passed to Port ok
then goto SE38 --> Execute the Program RBDMOIND
12 Error --> Dispatch ok
Inbound Status Codes
50 Error --> It will go for ALE Service Layer
56 Error --> Idoc with Errors added
51 Error --> Application Document not posted
65 Error --> Error in ALE Service Layer
for 51 or 56 Errors do the following steps
goto WE19 > give the IDOC Number and Execute>
Press on Inbound function Module
for 65 Error --> goto SE38 --> Execute the Program RBDAPP01 then your getting 51 Error
Rgds,
Prakash
08-07-2006 6:23 AM
08-07-2006 7:04 AM
Hi Siva,
chk the below links for ale and edi
EDI:
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCSRVEDI/CAEDI.pdf
ALE:
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf
Reward Points for the same.
Regards,
Harini.S
08-07-2006 7:16 AM
Hi,
<b>EDI (Electronic Data Interchange):</b>
Cross-company exchange of electronic data (for example business documents) between domestic and international business partners who use a variety of hardware, software, and communication services. The data involved is formatted according to predefined standards. In addition to this, SAP ALE technology is available for data exchange within a company.
That is "EDI is a generic term meant for exchanging electronic documents between systems, typically used for exchanging documents (e.g. purchase orders) between enterprises. Two most popular standards for EDI are ANSI X12 and UN/EDIFACT. see <u>www.disa.org</u> for more information."
<b>ALE (Application Link Enabling):</b>
A means of creating and operating distributed applications.ALE guarantees a distributed, but integrated, R/3 installation. This involves business-controlled message exchange using consistent data across loosely linked SAP applications.Applications are integrated using synchronous and asynchronous communication - not by using a central database.
ALE consists of the following layers:
Application services
Distribution services
Communication services
ALE uses IDOC format to create messages, standard SAP IDOC's are compatible with ANSI X12 and UN/EDIFACT (meaning they contain all the information required for creating X12 or EDIFACT message)
For more details you can refer below<b> links</b>:
<b>ALE</b>
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
http://sap.genieholdings.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://sap.genieholdings.com/ale/index.htm
<b>EDI:</b>
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCSRVEDI/CAEDI.pdf
<b>Reward points for helpful answer</b>
Regards,
Shakuntala