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Cheating in BI Forums for Points

Hello Friends,

Today I saw a group of users(maybe from the same company) who are copying previously answered threads just to get points.

They are following a system like.."i copy a query from a previously answered thread..post it as a new query..u answer the query by copying answers from the old thread..and i say 'thanks' and award points!".

these 4-5 users have all joined SDN on 14th May..and have already collected good number of points.

the very minute(say 11.39 am) one of them posts a query..3-4 of them post a reply(at 11.39 am)..and that very minute(11.39 am!) the thread is closed!

the same question is posted more than 3-4 times.

to prove my point..see below..

<b>event and event collector</b>

copied threads

/thread/146953 [original link is broken]

/thread/146938 [original link is broken]

/thread/146923 [original link is broken]

/thread/146898 [original link is broken]

original thread

<b>transfer objects</b>

copied threads

/thread/146940 [original link is broken]

/thread/146925 [original link is broken]

original thread

u can also find many other copied threads..'start routine','process chain','statistics' etc.

wow what a trick..if u cant earn points sincerely u dont deserve to be a part of SDN.

i dont know this is happening in how many other forums..

truly spoiling the culture of SDN.

Craig~Could we do something to stop this?

would like to hear others opinions on this..

with regards,

Vishvesh

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    May 16, 2006 at 09:23 AM

    Hi Vishvesh and all BI SDNers,

    As posted in the SDN Suggestions forum:

    Thanks for finding and pointing it out. It is sad that with all this opportunity to earn points on SDN someone has to cheat.

    As in life there is no shortcut. The good thing is, that it proofs again that you the SDN community finds out and gives us the opportunity to correct that behavior.

    It looks like a script created by Ramesh Babu. He registered on the 13th of May 2006. Even this name may be fake, as it looks like it is just a test balloon to see how far one can take it without getting coughed. Well about 290 points far 😊

    He created some dummy accounts on the 14th:

    I admit he put some effort in these: Genio inteligente I love that one.

    Oh how we would love to have SDN members that sign up and within 24 hours have posted 113 post and only 3 questions as did König David. But unfortunately he is long dead and a script went through old posts, copied them word for word and post them again on SDN: Question, answer, answer answer, thank you post and points given. All these posts where happening within 2 minutes.

    Of course other SDNers didn't know what was happening and sometimes gave a good answer, but of course were ignored. I am sorry for these.

    I went in, deactivated the points in many threads so that Ramesh was down to 174 points. I took these points off in a lump sum. With this amount of points he doesn't get far on SDN. The reputation is ruined anyhow.

    To all moderators if you see a pattern of question, answer, answer, answer, thank you all posted within one minute, please use your power and knock the points off.

    Through your participation, your contributions people will know you as a good SDNer, you get a reputation. Through gaming the point system you get a reputation too, a bad reputation. Who wants that?

    I love that the community found out about it and rang the alarm and we were able to do something about it.

    All the best, Mark.

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    May 15, 2006 at 04:36 AM

    Hi SDN,

    we need to stop this kind of things in SDN ...

    i too saw yesterday 10 posts from these people..

    unfortunately i hav given ans to their posts.. they dint assigned points for all my posts..

    Could we do something to stop this kind of tricks?

    -Shreya

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      Hi all,

      I do agree with you Vishvesh, As far as i know there is no way we can stop these kind of cheaters in SDN.

      I think we have to post this issue in SDN Discussions forum, so that moderators can have a look at those theads and block/ban users who are cheating here.

      Vishvesh, Can you post this thread in SDN Suggestions Forum please.

      Thanks

      Praveen

  • May 15, 2006 at 05:54 AM

    It's so sad, guys.

    One such a case was noticed almost a year ago:

    As I can see there are 3 kinds of cheating:

    1. Copy-paste the answers of BW gurus (Peter Knoer in the above link) as the cheater's own.

    2. Creation of several SDN IDs, question from one ID and answer from another one.

    3. A group of people post one or several questions and answer it repeatedly changing questioner and answerer.

    I think it is needed to check IP addresses of these cheaters and wipe them out from SDN.

    Best regards,

    Eugene

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    • Former Member Former Member

      HI Visvesh,

      i never knew there is a forum called 'Test & Playground' 😊

      But why SDN Considers points from that Forum?it should

      not be so!

      Thanks

      Message was edited by: Murali

  • May 15, 2006 at 03:50 PM

    Hi:

    We should ask moderators to add their names in a new Post.

    The danger is that these very people can give wrong answers to new Developers who come here for opinion.

    I only started last Thursday, but already have 62 points. but I worked very hard for them.

    In a post, i saw many people giving wrong advise. They were asking the User to DELETE all Master Data to increase the field length.

    If they did a simple test, it can be done carefully without deleting Master Data. These people are like "Guy See Guy Do". One "guy" gives a wrong answer and may "guys" will add to it.

    To all the users, PLEASE:

    If there is a doubt, PLEASE add MAYBE in solutons.

    Ram Chamarthy.

    I had to change a word so it sounds professional.

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    May 15, 2006 at 05:13 AM

    Hi,

    I agree with you on this. These type of things should be stopped immediately because it is affecting people who are contributing genuinely and spending thier valuable time on SDN.

    Regards,

    Prakash

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    May 15, 2006 at 05:34 AM

    Hello Vishwesh,

    Good work in tracing it out!!

    Thanks for this post and we all can henceforth take care and highlight such incidents....

    we cant let them spoil the SDN culture...

    Thanks again Vishwesh..

    regards,

    Aby

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    May 15, 2006 at 02:40 PM

    Hi Vishvesh,

    I have noticed that some members are copying answers posted by others. I happened to notice this yesterday. I posted an answer to one query. I was trying to answer a query on a similar topic and I noticed some one has copied my answer from previous post. It was evident because they did not even check for the typo. I was surprised but you know these things are common.

    But something of a kind that you have noticed is quite shocking. I wish there was a way to stop these things happening in this forum. It will spoil the whole environment in the forum. Hope this problem is rectified soon.

    regards,

    Sumana

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    May 16, 2006 at 09:37 AM

    Hi Vishvesh,

    Thanks for pointing out the cheating going at the board. That was real bad to see. People going to such an extend for points.That's really very sad to know.

    Thanks to Mark for taking up the action.

    Regards,

    Rohini

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