Setup time & Teardown time in PPDS

[ravi_babu6]

Hello Experts,

Could you please guide on the below requirement.

I am unable to transfer the Setup time and Teardown to the PPDS from S/4 HANA. I did the following settings

1. Maintained Resource with standard value key and formulas in capacity tab and also scheduling tab

2. Maintained Master recipe with operation and Phase. We have only one operation and phase so we have maintained setup,machine and teardown values in a single phase itself.

3. Transferred PDS using CURTOADV_create and PDS is transferred successfully but i can see only one activity in PDS that is PRODUCE and i cannot see the activity types SETUP and TEARDOWN. Also it shows only produce activity in planned order too

Please guide me which setup is missing from my end. Thanks in advance.

[ravi_babu6]

Hi Brahmankar,

Could you please share your personal mail ID, so that I will send you the screenshots of all the settings for better understanding.

Thank you.

[rupesh_brahmankar3]

Hello,

You can share the screen shots here also there is option to insert image.

Best Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[ravi_babu6]

Hello Brahmankar,

Thanks for the reply and very helpful answers.

Just referring to your screenshot above,the standard value key duration you have maintained at 2nd std value key in the pic. Why not at 1st and 3rd standard value key. If we maintained only at 2nd std, then i am able to transfer it but it shows all the activities as produced only in PDS. Is this the standard procedure.? Does system calculate it properly by considering setup, processing and teardown formulas and does it shows in scheduling as setup, machine and teardown activities.

Thanks a lot and appreciate for your support.

[rupesh_brahmankar3]

Hello,

The setup time and teardown time will be set to the fixed duration, whereas the produce time will be set to the variable duration of the MODE in the produce activity.

Process downtime (setup) will be represented as a separate phase with a duration Normally each operation will consist of two phases downtime and processing.

Within the recipe, the min/max duration of a relationship must be specified as 0 seconds

•Has the master recipe got relationships defined

•Is the duration between relationship phases equal to 0 seconds

•Do all phases that must be passed to APO have standard values

Best Regards,

R.Brahmanakar

[ravi_babu6]

Hello Brahmankar,

Thank you very much for your support. I hope we are on the same page now.

I created one operation and defined 3phases for it as Setup, Machine and Teardown and maintained relationship as FInish-Start one after the other. Initially, i was able to transfer only machine phase and then after maintaining the setup group for setup phase, i am able to transfer Setup activity too. Now, Teardown time phase unable to transfer to PPDS. Is there any settings i need to do for it? My client is expecting that he wants these 3 activities with different colors on Scheduling board for an operation.

Kindly suggest. Thank you.

[rupesh_brahmankar3]

Hello,

You use this report /SAPAPO/CURTO_ORDER_EXPLODE to carry out a simple or more detailed comparison and to retransfer master data for activities like setup time, processing time, teardown time

Operations without formulas in the work center are not sent to APO.

So please check control key, formula and activity duration of master recipe.

Use transaction CURTOADV_CREATE to retransfer the PDS.

Best Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[ravi_babu6]

Hello Brahmankar,

Could you please elaborate bit detailed.

I have experience in Automobile industry and not in process industry. I used Routing and when i maintain the setup,machine and labor or teardown time in a single operation and these activities are transferred to ppds as a separate activity types in PDS.

Now,In PP-PI process, Do we need to define a separate phase for each activity like setup,machine and tear down. And if yes, how to transfer labor or teardown time to PPDS?

My main purpose is to see setup,machine and teardown timings in detailed scheduling board and in Fiori app.

Thanks in advance for your support and help me in detailed to setup the scenario.

[rupesh_brahmankar3]

Hello,

In case of master recipe, you have to defined it as a phase like setup,machine and tear down.

Then maintain the relationship between phase like 0020 and 0030.

Does labour is constrain for planning? Then define it as separate resource and maintain the operation phases for it too.

You have parallel relationship between these phases too.

Best Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member330246]

Hi, I´m not a PP-DS specialist, but in order to help: Did you ran in SE38 /SAPAPO/PPDS_DELTA_ORD_TRANS for your material and plant in order to integrate your data? FM

[ravi_babu6]

Got the Answer for setup time transfer to APO. Could you please help on Teardown time transfering to PPDS and how it works.

Thanks in advance

[rupesh_brahmankar3]

Hello,

Teardown time will be set to the fixed duration in PDS, please check the same in transaction /n/SAPAPO/CURTO_SIMU.

Teardown and wait time is taken into account via the APO Core Interface (CIF)

Best Regards,

R.Brahmankar