Cannot limit BOM Usage to convert Production Order

[former_member287204]

Dear Experts,

In our company, we have 3 kinds of BOMs for Production -

E-BOM

P-BOM

F-BOM

For creating Production Order, especially to convert from MPS Planned Order in MD04, we only allow the F-BOM. In one of our client, i.e. client 138, it was setup previously so the following error message was prompted when it is NOT F-BOM (e.g. P-BOM) to convert Production Order from MD04 -

P BOM exists , it is unable to be converted.

Message no. ZBC001

However, in our another client 118,  we had configured the same (e.g. specified F-BOM for BOM Application in OPL8) and used a P-BOM to test but didn't find the above error msg.

The difference between two clients is that no component and exception msg "52" were found for the MPS Planned Orders in MD04 of client 118 while there were components and no exception msg was found for the MPS Planned Order in MD04 of client 138.

Could you advise how to solve our above problem in client 118 ?

Many Thanks,

KH Fong

[Former Member]

Kwok,

Use of acronyms which do not exist in the SAP standard glossary does not make a question any easier to answer.

Anyhow, let me see if I understand this question, by attempting to restate your situation:.

1.  You have created a custom functionality in one client, which triggers a custom popup message for that client's solution, and also prevents certain standard SAP activity..

2.  You have attempted to create a similar functionality in another client, and this functionality does not work in the same way that it does in the first client.

3, You are asking us in SCN, none of whom have access to either system, and none of whom have the slightest clue about the design of the custom solution, to tell you why the custom solution does not work as you expect in the second client.

Is that an accurate summary of your question?

Best Regards,

DB49

[former_member287204]

Dear DB49 and other Experts,

We had solved the above problem by adjusting OS21 & OS31.

However, found that MANUALLY created Planned Order (MD11) and Production Order (CO01) are still allowed for the  NON F-BOM (e.g. P-BOM).

When creating Production Order, the following msg is found but it is still allowed to save -

BOM for material FRT-8121HA-FR2BK01 does not contain any valid items

Message no. CO636

When creating Planned Order, no msg is found and it is allowed to save.

Could you advise why the above MANUALLY created orders cannot be blocked to create even if setting the OS21 & OS31 is completed ? and How to block these MANUALLY created orders as well ?

Tks,

KH Fong

[Former Member]

KH,

I still don't know what an F-BOM is, nor how it differs from the other two Production BOM types, nor what the business requirements are for these three different objects..

I still don't know anything about the previous solution.  I still don't know anything about the solution you are currently attempting, nor why you may have needed to  adjust OS21/OS31 in your previous solution.

I think you need to revisit all of your production configuration; and re-evaluate whether or not it is suitable for the current solution.

First thing I would look at would be BOM selection.OPPA

Another thing I would look at would be messages.  Selected messages can be defined as 'error' using OPJB

Best Regards,

DB49

[former_member287204]

Dear DB49,

Refer the following screen, the commonly used Production BOM in our company is as mentioned above, i.e. -

Engineering BOM (E-BOM)

Prelimary BOM (P-BOM)

Final BOM (F-BOM)

For the following screen in OS21, found that the highlighted P-BOM was originally NOT checked in the checkbox "Prod." in our client 118 while it was checked in our another client 138. Therefore, the problem of our client 118 was found as above.

For the following screen in OS31, found that the original setting in our client 118 was as below -

OF     1     F

OF     2     E

While the setting in our another client 138 was as below -

OF     1     F

OF     2     P

Therefore, the problem of our client 118 was found as above.

For ref., the "SelID" of the relevant Plant under "Alternative Determination in MRP" is "OF".

AFTER changing the settings as the above screens of OS21 & OS31, the above problem of client 118 could then be solved and the above error could then be found when creating Production Order with P-BOM in MD04.

However, the blocking can only be in MD04 by converting the Planned Order. MANUALLY created Planned Order (MD11) and Production Order (CO01) are still allowed for the NON F-BOM (e.g. P-BOM).

When creating Production Order, the following msg is found but it is still allowed to save -

BOM for material FRT-8121HA-FR2BK01 does not contain any valid items

Message no. CO636

When creating Planned Order, no msg is found and it is also allowed to save.

Could you advise why the above MANUALLY created Planned & Production Orders cannot be blocked to create even if setting the OS21 & OS31 was completed ? and could you also advise how to block these MANUALLY created Planned & Production Orders as well ?

Tks,

KH Fong

[former_member196530]

Hi ,

Please check the following -

1.OS30 - BOM application and Selection Id assignment

2.OPL8-BOM application assignment

3. OPPQ-Check the BOM and Routing Selection

4.OPPR-MRP group on BOM Explosion setup

Please also read wiki  in scn on BOM Selection Logic in MRP which basically  help you to understand how MRP trigger the planned order based on BOM setup  and check the above settings.

Regards

JH

[former_member287204]

Dear JH,

Thanks for your reply, but how can the above transactions affect blocking creation of manual Planned Orders and Production Orders for specified BOM Usage ?

Tks,

KH Fong

[solomon_macwan]

Hi KH,

As stated by DB49, that it is very difficult to answer the question. Becasue we do not know which development you have done.

So better you do one thing - You have already copied the development so open both the client side by side and check all the configuration(BOM, Order etc.) as it is.

Also use the similar master data - because your pop up development may refer the master or customize setting.

regards,

Solomon

[former_member287204]

Dear Solomon (& other Experts),

Refer my above msg on 2016-7-6 6:53am which I had already mentioned our problem in details.

Refer my above msg on 2016-7-26 11:34am which I had further explained our problem and found solution (by ourselves) in details. Basically, we had solved our above problem (in MD04) by comparing and adjusting transactions OS21 & OS31.

The rest of questions (by interest) are -

Q1) Is it possible to block MANUALLY created Planned Orders & Production Orders for if it is NOT F-BOM usage (e.g. P-BOM) ? Our BOM usages were mentioned on the above msg on 2016-7-26 11:34am.

Q2) If the above Q1 is "Yes", how to enable such blocking to block the MANUALLY created Planned Orders & Production Orders ?

Tks,

KH Fong

[former_member287204]

Attached is the relevant screens for your ref. -

In client 118 , exception msg "52" found in MD04 and cannot block to convert to Production Order -

In client 138, exception msg is not found and can block (with the above error msg) to convert to Production Order -

Both of the above FG Materials are belong to P-BOM (not F-BOM).

Any expert can help to advise solution for our above problem ?

Tks,

KH Fong