on 05-15-2016 11:23 PM
hi,
I recently came across https://experience.sap.com/fiori-design-ios/ and the UI Elements seems to be more of a "native version" in iOS - does anyone have any idea if there is a library / toolkit from SAP to jump-start or this is more of a teaser of something that does not exist?
Cheers,
Dan.
HI Dan
talking to the SAP/Apple iOS apps team here at Sapphire 2016 the SDK is being worked on along with some initial apps. Current expectation is that SDK will be released for Q4 2016. It will be based on Swift
rgds
Jocelyn
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Hi Jocelyn,
Are you allowed to talk with them about the main the strategy line? - Why jumping to native again? - What I've read in the Fiori Guidelines website so far means nothing, it's "bla bla bla" talk and exposes no real reasons for the move.
Considering UI5 cannot run and will never run (as it is) on mobile properly, is this the iOS alternative to get some performance? - About Fiori Guidelines, they are sort of defined "device independent" meaning no native control is used but they will break in between iOS & others.. how's that gonna work?
Thanks a lot for your previous reply! (and sorry for all the questions, customers tend to dislike when stuff shift this drastically and I cannot explain the reasons)
Cheers,
Dan.
HI Dan
ok...so it goes like this....
Apple has a very large market share of mobile devices
SAP has a very large share of enterprise UX
Add some mutual respect of current UX approaches and device/tech capabilities
Mull over the possibilities and ...
Why don't we do something interesting together?
Apple gets to show what it can do in the Enterprise UX space
SAP gets to show how Fiori design might be applied in non-SAP tech
So...
not a major change of direction
more a very interesting & commercially viable use case that explores possible futures
Expect Fiori for iOS SDK in Q3 or Q4... Probably in line with one of the techeds
it will be Swift based as already announced
with a few high quality LoB apps as examples
No impact on SAPUI5 or HCPms or HAT or SMP plans as yet
No similar opportunities being explored as such...but always open to new possibilities that make commercial sense
Hope that helps
Jocelyn
Thanks Jocelyn,
I disagree and I find this a major change in direction.. mainly because they are bringing "Fiori" into the play, and customers will ask: "what is that?" - it only makes total sense to go native if the customer is asking "Fiori" and have iOS and totally forget the fact UI5 even exist; who in their sane minds would choose UI5 that can barely hit 15 fps on a device?
It's sad this is "tied" up to HCP, even thou has nothing to do with HCP..
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Came across an interesting blog by Gavinpquinn sharing his findings from sapphire.
http://www.mindsetconsulting.com/sap-apple-ios-announcement-details-from-sapphire-screen-shots/
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Right, We may actually expect more announcements coming up in the next few days.
I am also trying to figure out the unique additions in this New SDK from the existing Native IOS SDK shipped with SAP Mobile Platform 3.0 / HCPMS.
Eagerly waiting for more news from Sapphire attendees.
Regards
Virinchy
Dan,
You may be interested reading Steve Lucas blog: https://blogs.saphana.com/2016/05/05/apple-and-sap-innovate-together-to-drive-development-and-busine...
Regards.
JK
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hi Jitendra,
Thanks for the hyperlink.. but this is exactly the kind of information I avoid to consider while making or forming a judgement because:
a) it's marketing talk which I consider bs at best and
b) it doesn't provide any real context other than hype hcp which I hope to God not be a dependency;
Nonetheless, thanks again for sharing!
Cheers,
Dan.
As per my understanding, they are going to release the sdk/toolkit sometime later this year.
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