different doc type, same vendor, same output message, different medium

[Former Member]

@moderators: I have searched extensively about this scenario, on every forum online, wiki, documentation.

this is NOT a question about output message determination (which I know how to set)

you are kindly requested to read the question until the end and not to reject the question.

scenario:

Vendor ABC

Doc type NB or ZNB

message output NEU

transmission medium: 1 if doc type is NB, 5 if doc type is ZNB.

settings in MN04 have been maintained

when using doc type ZNB the message is not generated but if I create a new vendor master for the same vendor and use it for the ZNB document type , it works.

I was under the impression that since the access sequence we use is Doc type/Porg/vendor, by using a different doc type the same vendor could be used for different medium transmission in NEU.

is this correct? is there any special settings we must maintain for that?

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

solved:

we found out that the same vendor had settings for combination Porg/EDI and so I guess the system got confused.

we deleted those settings and it worked

[BijayKumarBarik]

Hi,

You have two document types NB and ZNB where you should be creating two PO's.

One PO with NB document type

Another PO with ZNB document type

With same output type you can Print and send E-mail - did you tried in you system instead of maintaining different message condition records for mediums(1 and 5)

Regards,

Biju K

[Former Member]

hello Bijay

I am not sure I understand your question.

What we need is different document types as in PO type NB and PO type ZNB (for the sake of the scenario I will cann it ZNB)

I have vendor 604237 that we use for both document types but with different mediums:

when we use it for NB we need printout (transmission medium 1)

when we use it for ZNB we need external sending (transmission medium 5)

what is your question?

[BijayKumarBarik]

Hi,

What is issue now with same output type?

Keep condition record for PO document type as follow

PO output type-------PO document type -----medium

NEU-----------------------NB---------------------------1

NEU-----------------------ZNB--------------------------5

Just creating PO with same vendor with different document types for same out put type(NEU) and if any issue - share all screens

Regards,

Biju K

[Former Member]

this is indeed my scenario and exactly what I did.

which screens would you like to see? I shared the determination analysis in my previous reply together with the settings: what else could help you to understand?

keep in mind that for the old vendor it does not work but for the new vendor, copy of the old, it works

[BijayKumarBarik]

Hi,

Compare and check data between old vendor ( for which did not works) and new vendor( for which working)

Regards,

Biju K

[Prasoon]

Hi,

   Standard SAP will allow to maintain multiple medium for the same output type with different combinations.

   If its not happening for one document type, please check whether the partner function is maintained for the vendor and the same is triggered in PO. Now, check the determination analysis as shown below:

    Check the same and revert back!

Regards,

AKPT

[Former Member]

thank you Praason:

the partner is maintained for the vendor: as a matter of fact, the new vendor we created is an exact copy of the old vendor used in doc type NB.

in analysis determination (which I also did) the system finds the message type NEU but states that it is missing the communication type (it is external send): but it is not correct as the communication type exists (CS01) ad it is set.

In fact for the new vendor the system finds it....

[Prasoon]

Hi,

   I just replicated the scenario in EHP 4 and the system triggered output correctly. Could you please share your SAP release details.

   In addition, please check whether the message is getting triggered for the new vendor when both the condition records (medium 1 and 5) are maintained for the vendor.

   Found a KBA: 2147913 - Communication strategy disappears from purchase order output which explains the similar issue with manual output type.

Regards,

AKPT

[Former Member]

hello Praason

to answer your questions:

1) we are on SAP_APPL     605 (EHP 5 )

2) I have tested the other vendor and it works just fine: when a NB PO type is created, NEU medium 1 is triggered and when ZNB PO type is created, NEU  medium 5 is triggered.

I will now check the note you provided (which I have not seen before)