Which version of OS and version is the SAP ASE Developer Edition?

[former_member1259891]

Unless I'm missing something, I could not determine which OS and version the file I am about to download will run on.  I contacted SAP to clarify and I was told to post my question here.

It's remarkable to me that the person I chatted with could not answer some basic question and directed me to this forum.  At the very least OS and version should be listed on the download webpage.  Additionally, what version of Sybase will I be downloading 16 or 15.7.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Rob

[dawn_kim]

Hi,

If you go to the https://support.sap.com/release-upgrade-maintenance/pam.html site you should be able to find what you need. The PAM  or Product Availability Matrix has really grown and is actually pretty good for the newer stuff. If want to know about the older certification stuff you should go to the SAP ASE wiki page: https://wiki.scn.sap.com/wiki/display/SYBASE/ASE+Certification+Reports

Thanks,
Dawn Kim

[Former Member]

Mark,

Excellent suggestions for Robert!

Otherwise, I completely agree with your comments about SAP.

1. You often get better results using Google or Bing than the SAP search engine...

2. Access to the solved cases database inexplicably stopped a few years back....

Security concern? Perhaps. However, a mistake...

I have solved many problems for myself, and for custumers searching through the Solved Cases Database, Bing and Google, without involving TS, or before they even call you back...

Regards,

Jean-Pierre

[Mark_A_Parsons]

Unfortunately, it looks like access to the PAM requires a (I-user?) login; not of much use for folks who don't have an I-user login (eg, someone wanting to download the ASE developer version) ...

[former_member1259891]

You ASSUMED correctly. I thought I spelled it out in my title ie "SAP ASE Developer Edition".   i didn't elaborate on the url since I didn't think there were multiple places to download the SAP ASE 16 Developers Edition.  I didn't specify the file name since I didn't download the file as of the initial posting.  A couple of day had passed before the post was approved.  Until that time and the initial responses, I ventured out, clicked on the download button, which gave me a choice of Linux or a Windows download.  I answered my own question, kind of.  Still don't know which version of windows I can run the executable on.  Found the install guide for ASE 16 SP02 but I can't open the pdf since SAP seems to be doing some maintenance on their side.

Agreed, SAP should be more open like the old Sybase.com.  Something they don't realize is helping the user community helps SAP in the long run.

Thank you for your valued input.

[Former Member]

Robert,

Thank you for getting back to us. I am glad you solved your issue.

As far as your comments about SAP, echoing those made by Mark and myself, I hope they pay attention and open up ressources that used to be available in the past.

I have been complaining about this for years, and at times thought they wanted to kill the products, but now I feel it might have just been in an effort to protect what they did not fully understand. That, or they were just hoping people would just give up and migrate to other platforms like HANA. LOL.

Regards,

Jean-Pierre

[former_member1259891]

Jean-Pierre,

I doubt if whatever grumblings are going on between us will capture the attention of the decision makers at SAP.  Perhaps what is needed is a well crafted cyber petition distributed in the linkedin SAP/Sybase groups & SAP forum(s) to amplify the changes that have occurred from Sybase to SAP which is hindering our user community and making our jobs more difficult and all that we are asking for is an openness that existed under Sybase and should have continued forward into SAP.  There were scripts that were available in codeXpress that are now gone.  It's just not right.  I believe strength in numbers is the only way of capturing the attention at SAP.

Best,

Rob

[former_member1259891]

Jean-Pierre,

FYI I thought you're name looked familiar.  I looked you up on linkedin and noticed you were an instructor at Sybase in NYC.  While I hadn't attended any of your classes, I recall you being there while I was attending an other class(es) and had spoken to you on a couple of occasions.

I trust you've been well.

Take Care,

Rob

[Former Member]

Robert,

I believe that SAP does monitor these forums

I mention this because of an unpleasant experience I had with a questions I posted here a while back. It was deleted because apparently "it did not follow the rules of engagement". My request for clarification was ignored. The question was no different in nature than the ones I see here daily...

However, you are right, I doubt I will do the SAP Sybase community any good for us to complain here. All we can do is observe, comment, unite and act. And the best way to act is through ISUG-TECH the Independent SAP Tecnical User Group. www.isug.com

I am still the Director in Latin America. If you check the site, ISUG-TECH : Enhancements Process,

we have a section where users can post enhancement requests and influence the future direction of product development. Row level locking was introduced into ASE by lobbying of the user group.

So, as a member you could access the site, post your request (e.g. bring back code samples in code express, bring back access to the solved technical support cases library etc). If it gets enough votes from the user community, ISUG-TECH directors lobbies with SAP to implement the suggestions.

As it is, very few members of the board of directors are still tecnical. I believe the most technical ones are Joe Woodhouse, and myself, so most would not notice this. But, I have, and truth be told, I am glad others are noticing and are ready to act. So please do. I will back you up.

In the end, again, it all goes to show that SAP is either ignoring the products because it wants to EOL them or out of ignorance. It does not value what they are worth or is betting on other technologies such as SAP HANA. Same result. The user community looses, and so does SAP.

It is like saying that you are giving up on copper wiring because you have fiber optics!? Of course fiber optics is a faster technology, however, the world runs on copper! It might eventually be replaced, but it is going to take decades and existing installations need maintenance... like COBOL.

Personnally, I have been aware of this since 2010, but it is only now that I see someone else agree.

Thank you for your comments, and I hope we can do something about it.

Regards,

Jean-Pierre

[Former Member]

Robert,

Yes, I worked for Sybase, Inc. out of the New York City office from 1992 to 2002. I was a Sr. Consultant and Sr. Instructor and was often called upon to support sales in a pre and post Sales Consultant role.

I looked you up on LinkedIn, but there is no picture of you so, even if you name also rings a bell, I cannot say I remember exactly who you are or our conversations... Perhaps if you post a picture on LinkedIn or here I will recognize you... Either way it is very nice of you to remember me.

Doing well? I have had better decades. After being laid off from Sybase, Inc. due to the post 9/11 downsizing (60% of services employees were laid off from the company within a year) I started my own consulting firm and was modestly successful until ousourcing killed it. Business went to India...

Looking for greener pastures, I ventured into Latin America, thinking that 20+ years of experience in IT in the NYC metro area and my command of Spanish would be enough... Big mistake. The Sybase client base is tiny, not expanding and a very competitive and closed market there.

I have struggled only landing two gigs involving consulting and/or teaching ASE and/or RS in the last ten years....

So, I have been focusing on selling Sybase services independently, as well as those of partners whose products I have worked with (mLogica, Bradmark, Confio e.g. Solar Winds, Dobler Consulting, Soaring Eagle Consulting etc) in order to employ myself. Tough going...

Selling is difficult when you are backed by an entire organization and experienced. When you do it on your own, without any support, if is really difficult, specially if it was not your profession. So, while I have learned quite a bit about marketing and sales, I can't say I have been successful.

In the end, I eek out an existence teaching languages, fixing computers and getting the occasional technical gig. However, as you will see, I am still on top of former SAP technology, keeping myself current technically and working with the user community and ISUG-TECH. www.isug.com .

I am also shifting my focus to learning other technologies which I hope will be more lucrative and viable for me long term, either as a technitian or salesman

E.g. MS SQL Server, ORACLE, SAP HANA, SAP Dataservices etc. . VMWARE, CISCO, EMC and almost anything related to SECURITY. Physical or logical. Trying to get CISSP certified...

On a higher note, I have lost weight, I am back in shape, and have discarded almost all earthly possesions, living a healthier life style, and trying to spend time only on things and people that give back as much as they take. I am not always successful, but I am trying hard!

In the process, I consume and sell a variety of vitamins and nutricional supplements from USANA.

Good practice for selling IT services, but equally difficult in places with depressed economies where surviving and some fun are greater priority than good health.

Anyway, thank you for asking. Hopefully, SAP will not delete this post due to a "violation of the rules of engagement"! LOL. I hope you are doing better!

Regards,

Jean-Pierre

[former_member1259891]

Jean-Pierre,

I sent you an invite to connect on linkedin.  Please accept.  I'd rather have this continued conversation outside of this forum.  Same life experiences different particulars as yours.  I'll elaborate in a personal email.

Hope you understand.

Best,

Rob

[Former Member]

Robert,

Of course I understand. No problem regarding the personal and professional experiences.

However, I believe some of the dialogue might echo the experience of many after the purchase of Sybase by SAP.

Regards,

Jean-Pierre

P.S. I have accepted your invitation on LinkedIn and we can continue the dialogue there.

[former_member1259891]

Jean-Pierre,

I hear you and I agree, however, what happened to the industry as a whole I believe can be attributed to the outsourcing of our jobs.

Best,

Rob

[Former Member]

All,

Since I wrote my comments above, I again verify that:

1. You often get better results searching Google that the SAP site

HOWEVER, I have since discovered that some of the documentation, code etc. formerly found in

CodeExpress, may be located in the SAP Wikis.

2. See the links below.

SAP ASE Wiki

https://wiki.scn.sap.com/wiki/display/SYBASE/SAP+ASE+Homehttps://wiki.scn.sap.com/wiki/display/SYBASE/SAP+ASE+Home

SAP RS Wiki

https://wiki.scn.sap.com/wiki/display/SYBREP/SAP+Replication+Server

SAP IQ Wiki

https://wiki.scn.sap.com/wiki/display/SYBIQ/IQ

Thank you and regards,

Jean-Pierre