HU & Bin

[Former Member]

Hi all,

Where i can assign bin capacity to store number of HU's ?

Also where we define HU capacity to store number of SKU ?

Thanks

Sunil

[JuergenPitz · Accepted solution]

Hi,

for a capacity check by number of HUs you use the "capacity check by key figure packaging material". You activate the cap. check in your storage type. You assign the maximum capacity to your bins (in the field "Total Capacity" (the one without unit)). You assign the capacity used for one HU in your packaging material master (in ERP. Material master --> additional data. On the tab Units of Measure, in the column "Capacity").

So if you can store 4 HUs, the capacity of your bin is 4, the capacity required for your packaging material is 1.

Brgds

Juergen

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[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Jurgen/Ck

Thanks for your reply.

My requirement is simple.

Say I have a bin which can store upto only 4 HU's ,so where shall I assigned it ?

@ CK  - I checked bin type but didn't find any provision where I can define bin capacity for HU capacity !

Just like we can define the HU capacity to hold material in pack spec.

Thnaks

Sunil

[JuergenPitz · Accepted solution]

"Say I have a bin which can store upto only 4 HU's ,so where shall I assigned it ?"

Did I not just describe that case?

Juergen

[former_member183610 · Accepted solution]

Hi Sunil,

in the bin type , we have L,B & H parameters,

Assume that,Bin type  L,B & H are 1 meter each, and HU ( box ) parameters L, B & H are 0.25 meters each..

Here calculation is like that, If we want to store HUs in the bin up to full level , we can able to store 64 HUs,

If we activate the capacity check, system can store 64 HUs only in that bin,and remaining HUs propose as per the putaway rule.

one provision is there to maintain the HU measurements at the time of creating IBD in the ERP.

C K Reddy

[former_member183610 · Accepted solution]

Hi,

In addition to the above reply, just follow the Jurgen advice and maintain the L,B & H parameters for materials & packaging materials in the material master additional data view under unit of measurements.

C K Reddy

[JuergenPitz · Accepted solution]

"and maintain the L,B & H parameters for materials & packaging materials"

I never gave that advice.

"Assume that,Bin type  L,B & H are 1 meter each, and HU ( box ) parameters L, B & H are 0.25 meters each..

Here calculation is like that, If we want to store HUs in the bin up to full level , we can able to store 64 HUs,

If we activate the capacity check, system can store 64 HUs only in that bin,and remaining HUs propose as per the putaway rule."

And I really doubt that this works. The system can use the max weight, volume or capacity from the bin type for a capacity check, but the dimension are only use with slotting. And for this you do not use an HU.

Juergen

[former_member183610 · Accepted solution]

Hi jurgen,

I agree with you, I have tested in my system, observed that, capacity check is not carried with only L,B,H,

if maintained the volume also, it is working, along L,B,H.

C K REDDY

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Thanks Jurgen for your reply !

I hope you have understand my requirement.

I have done the settings as per your advice

Sto. Type

Bin Capacity

Will get back to you after testing.

Thanks

Sunil

[JuergenPitz · Accepted solution]

Hi,

let me guess: it does not work. And why? Because you selected the putaway strategy 5 - next empty bin. And next empty bin means "TAKE NEXT EMPTY BIN". That means that the system does not create a mixed storage by itself.

Your setting also says that there is only one HU allowed.

Brgds

Juergen

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Jurgen,

Thanks for your reply.

My requirement is system shall allow to store 4 HU (same HU) in one bin.

So what all changes I have to do at both storage type and bin level ?

thanks,

Sunil

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hello Sunil,

Yes jurgen is correct.

Because indicator you used in storage type will not allow to do so.

Change the indicator as :

Putaway rules - Add. to existing stock/Empty Bin

Mixed Storage - Several Non mixed HU with same batch/product.

Mixed Storage in HU - Mixed Storage not allowed.

You don't have to do any settings at bin level .

Test with this setting & I hope it will meet you requirement.

BR,

Olet

[JuergenPitz · Accepted solution]

Hi,

the settings in the bin are ok.

For the putaway rule I believe there is only "4 General storage area" as real valid option. IMHO no other putaway rule (except working with fixed bins) does by itself create a mixed storage. And I suppose you want to have mixed storage.If you do want to control or not allow mixed storage, you use the mixed storage settings to limit this.

It seems that Addition to stock / empty bin also works, but that is actually strange.

And

But

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Jurgen,

Where we define and assign max. number of HU per storage bin.

If we check in bin master it appears

But during creating a bin this field is greyed out .

My question where we do define and assign max hu for bin.

Thanks,

Sunil

[JuergenPitz · Accepted solution]

Hi,

I don't know how difficult my explanations are to understand, but when I write "for a capacity check by number of HUs you use the "capacity check by key figure packaging material"", that should mean - there is NO direct assignment of how many bins you can putaway in a bin (at least there is nothing I know).

This field you show is not for that. The F1 help unfortunately is not really helpful, but the tab "Bin sectioning" should tell you already that this is for something else (Putaway and Stock Removal Strategies - SAP Library). This is not what you asked for, because this is for a dynamic segmentation of a bin (and each segment is then like its own bin).

Brgds

Juergen

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Jurgen,

Thanks for your post !

I understood that max no of HU will come dynamically from your storage type setting and your packaging material .

Will check and get back to you.

Regards,

Sunil

[former_member209095 · Accepted solution]

Hello Sunil,

To save Juergen, i will try to help you.

First, define capacity consumption at your packaging material master data. Let's say X(numeric) is your capacity consumption.

Then you can define either storage bin type or directly at your bin master data capacity limit(which can be seen in your screenshot: total capacity). Both of them works. If you use storage bin type, keep in mind you need to refresh bin master data to make it work(just enter in change mode and press enter). Let's say capacity limit is Y.

You already customized capacity checks based on storage type(addition to stock/empty bin & capacity check). Now you are ready.

When executing putaway search, strategy will decide if there is enough cap at this storage bin.

* If x is bigger than y, you can not put this HU to this bin.

* If x is equal or lower than y, you can put this HU to this bin.

* y is dynamic. After single HU is putaway, if there is still enough capacity for putaway, you can put one more HU to this bin( Y-X >= X situation).

Hope this helps,

Best regards

Serhan

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Shrehan,

Thanks for your post !

I guess even jurgen is grateful to you for saving him

But believe me I was bit confused and was struggling to understand.

Now picture is clear .

Thnak you.

Sunil

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Shrehan,

What will be the consumption and total capacity unit of measure ?

Say if my Pack. Mat is box which can hold upto 100 kg and I maintained it as 1 Box = 100 kg.

I have put the consumption figure as 100 & While in bin type total capacity is 400.

Same with Bin type and Bin number there is no unit of measure for Total Capacity !

My requirement is one bin can hold upto 4 Box.

Which combination will work

100 and 400 or 1 and 4 ?

Thanks,

Sunil

[JuergenPitz · Accepted solution]

Hi,

"100 and 400 or 1 and 4 ?"

Both

"What will be the consumption and total capacity unit of measure ?"

This does not have a unit of measure.

Brgds

Juergen

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Jurgen,

I did the below settings :

Storage Type

Capacity check -  2 Check Acc. to Key Figure Packaging Material

Packaging material - HU

Capacity Consumption - 100

Bin Type

Total capacity - 400

I hope i have done config. as per you guidance.

According to above settings system shall propose 4 HU(same Mat/batch) in one Bin.

It is proposing more than 4 HU and it is not working as per expectation.

I would appreciate if you could give me the clear idea how to maintain consumption capacity and total capacity.

Thanks

Sunil

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi CK,

I checked the solution proposed by you as well.

I maintained pack. mat product L B H = 1 and Bin Type L B H = 4.

System is allowing to store more than 4 HUs

Don't know where I am missing.

Please suggest.

Thanks

Sunil

[former_member183610 · Accepted solution]

Hi,

Measurement wise capacity check is not working for capacity check.I checked that.

here one BAdi is available for capacity check determinations during WT creation.Please try with that,and let us know the result,since i have not checked..

/SCWM/EX_CORE_PTS_CAPACHECK

BR,

C K Reddy

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Ck,

Thanks for your reply.

Actually our requirement is Capacity check in accordance with HU.

We want Capacity Check in Accordance with Capacity Key Figure

Do you have any idea all that jurgen is trying to explain.

I am doing exactly the same but no luck so far.

Thanks

Sunil

[JuergenPitz · Accepted solution]

Hi,

Why do you maintain the Max. Capacity at the bin type? That does not work. Except if you active the "early capacity check". You have to maintain the max capacity at the bin.

Juergen

[former_member183610]

Hi,

in the Bin type, you can find the L,B,H parameters to define the size of the bin,

For products , we have the field size/dimensions in ERP material basic data1 view.

in your case,

Where i can assign bin capacity to store number of HU's ?

bin type dimensions can check the HU ( packaging material ) dimensions

where we define HU capacity to store number of SKU ?

Packaging material ( HU ) dimensions can check the material ( in side HU )  dimensions, how many products can store in one HU

But, straightaway system can not support to perform the capacity check from HU Vs products as per the dimensions.You can use the weight and volume parameters for this check.

C K REDDY