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What is needed and what costs for MSDS authoring, linked to B1

Good Morning,

We are presently in the process of getting a SAP B1 implementation into place, combining with a chemical/process industry add on. One of the elements which is yet to be fully discussed is the need for safety data sheet production. At this time, we have a standalone system into which we enter our chemical formula/recipe, together with physical parameters and the system then produces a hazard classification, transport classification, label information and safety data sheet. The system is functional but will not talk to B1, which is a big negative as the whole point of the B1 system is to bring independent systems together.

I have done a bit of reading but am yet uncertain as to how the EHS system and associated 'things' help me. Within the process manufacturing add on which we use, we will be able to define hazard info and attach MSDS, so that we can track and produce labels. However, this still leaves us having to modify both the SAP and H&S system, every time a change is made. So can anyone give me a very quick lowdown on what, under the SAP banner, we can use to not only manage the MSDS, but to create them?

I have seen some info about cloud solutions along these lines and they seem to be a case of our producing the recipes and physical data and then someone else creating the MSDS and then sending it back. However, I have no idea at all about the costs and whether it is remotely viable.

I would appreciate any assistance so that I can have some facts under my belt when we address this properly, with our software partners.

Many thanks

Adam

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  • Posted on Jan 08, 2016 at 06:46 PM

    Dear Adam

    I do not 100% understand your scenario.

    PLease explain: what do you mean with "SAP B1 implementation into place"

    PLease xplain: At this time, we have a standalone system into which we enter our chemical formula/recipe, together with physical parameters and the system then produces a hazard classification, transport classification, label information and safety data sheet. => what kind of system we are talking about SAP or Non SAP?

    PLease explain: However, this still leaves us having to modify both the SAP and H&S system, every time a change is made => I do not get your point here

    Basicly this is the story:

    Some company does have a SAP ERP in place. Using this system you can use as well (after some topics ned to be clarified etc.) SAP EHS for

    a.) MSDS generaiotn

    b.) Label generation

    c.) Danegrous goods management

    and lots of other stuff as well.

    Take a look at: SAP EHS Management for Beginners

    This document rties to bring together many important topics as discussed here. Some "rare" examples exist here in context of "distributed SAP" systems or of one SAP ERP system and non SAP Systems which should be linked to gether

    The "road" you would liek touse depends on the IT startegy of your company. Clearly SAP provides very useful services/solutions in Cloud etc. which you can use as well. These solutions/services inlcudeMSDS/SDS generation and lot of other topics. Just get in touch with SAP contacts to get an understanding of the existing solutions/Services etc.

    C.B.

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    • Dear Adam,

      now after clarification of the term "SAP B1" =>

      1.) I do have 0 experience with SAP Business One. I just checked: Getting Started - SAP Business One 9.1 - SAP Library

      etc, This is a solution for small and midsize companies without any EHS capability: I was not able to find the "add on" which you have mentioned for chemcial indsutry...

      Not being the expert of SAP Business One: It is quite obvious (from my Point of view) that you need help from e.g. SAP or other providers. If you do the set up of SAP Business One and you still have the need to generate MSDS etc. there seems to be no other optionin place as to go on in using your existing legacy system. Now the other topic comes i place. if there is no "Interface" exist in this legacy System you lack of one important process step. Normally the Story is like:

      based on sales order you will Need e.g. MSDS, Label etc, NOw you Need to look foroptionsusing SAP Business One to "trigger2 your legacy System to "print" something. This can be a challenge.

      If you can not design an "IT Interface" you have some Kind of "double work" as you Need to Analyse data in SAP Business One and the you Need to trigger the printing inyour legay System manually.

      Nobody will be happy in using this Scenario.

      I can confirm that the costs for SAP ERP and EHS set up will be quite high and there is a good Chance that the management will not support this

      C.B:

      PS: for Legacy system: can you generate MSDS/SDS or label at least as "pdf" file? May be there might be an option to "upload" this to SAP Buisiness One system this

      For SAP ERP: this is a quite commong solution and user very often to get rid of old legacy systems; and there is a standard approach to use the "pdf" files to integrate in EHS and to do then MSDS/SDS dispatch from EHS