Collective order with manual good receipt

[Former Member]

Dear all,

I have a very specific demand from my Customer, and I need your help.

My Customer is working in food industry and uses Collective Order from their production planning process.

This solutions helps them to plan and Schedule their orders, they dont need to create, and release orders one by one, etc...

BUT once the release is done,  they would need to "come back" to a manual good receipt for each level of the collective order.

Do you have a solution ? The co-product declaration (531) does not respond to their need.

Considering that a standard SAP solution does not exist, which specific would you advise ?

Thanks a lot for your support.

Pierre

[former_member183349 · Accepted solution]

Hi Pirerre,

First thing

1. your case is Collective Orders Without Automatic Goods Movements.But SAP always recommends the use of collective orders with automatic goods movements.

For Your Kind Information: Settlement rule for Collective orders w/o Automatic Goods Movements:

When you create production orders, the system automatically generates a settlement rule and a hierarchy number for each production order.

The hierarchy number specifies the sequence in which the orders are settled.

A. The settlement rules of the dependent orders assign the order costs to the respective higher-level order.

B.  The settlement rule of the leading order assigns the order costs to the following receivers:

2. Did you given spl.procurement type E - 52 for superior material in MRP 2 View.

3. Check in MRP4 View: BOM explosion/dependent requirements: Individual/coll. - Select/Choose:  2: Collective requirements only

4. are you enabled 'auto GR option'.

5. check whether backflush indicator is set in all parameters.

6. Kindly, check in OPK4 - change view 'Parameters for order confirmation': Overview

Control Data:

Process Control:

Choose according your req:

PX1 Conf. Processes Immediately updated

PX2 Conf. Processes later with job

PX3 Backflushing/autom.goods issue per job

Checks:

Operation Sequence: select ' Termination when operation sequence is not adhered to'.

Good Movements

Place the 'tickmark' All Components

Please let me know

Regards,

Vivek

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Dear all,

Sorry for my late feedback.

Thanks a lot for your advices

I followed your insructions (Vivek and Satya especially) but unfortunately I still get the same error message when I want to make a 101 movement in MIGO for an order which is part of a collective order.

101 movement is prohibited for my order.

Did you really succeed to make a 101 movement possible for an intermediate ordre  from a collecctive order ?

Would you accepte to show me your screenshots of your parameters / movements ?

Thanks again for your great support.

Pierre

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Pierre,

Thanks for your feedback,

and Check following link.

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/b1/c0500c439a11d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm

Regards,

Satya

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi,

Pls check below link:

http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-69511

Satya

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Dear Satya,

Thanks a lot for your clear document and explanations.

I succeeded into confirming GR for child order before parent order !

I still have a few questions  about this solution :

1) in CO15 I confirm GR for child order => OK

2) in CO15 i cannot confirm GR for parent order is  the previous confirmation is not final ?

From industrial point of view, production is slightly postponed between child and parent, so we would like to confirm GR for parent order almost at the same time as child order.

Is there a possibility to allow GR for parent if  GR for child is at least partial ?

3) second question :

If I do final confirmation for child order corresponding to 150% of the released quantity.

Then I do a confirmation for paent order corresponding to 20% of the RQ.

=> Automatic GI for child correspond to the global GR of the child.

it means that for 20 % of the production, I over consum till 150% on child component.

Is my parameter not correct in my BOM ?

I need the confirmation to respect the proportional quantity of my BOM
20% GI for child versus  20% GR for Parent.

Thanks a lot for your help.

Pierre

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi,

We can do the partial confirmation for 'Parent Order' in collective order process, Not for the child order. It accepts Partial confirmation for child order, But Auto.GR for partial qty will not allow.

Satya

[former_member183349]

Hi Pierre,

Adding additional inputs along with Mr.R ,

You can unmarked the flag by using t.code. OPJH ( Maintain Production Order Types ).

Finally, you can do good receipt with order - MB31.

Hope it will work.

Regards,

Vivek

[Former Member]

Hi everybody,

First, thank you for your quick feedback.

I have already tested the solution by unmarking the flag in OPJH.

Unfortunately, I have the following error when I want to confirm production on a different level than the main order :

No GR possible : Order 1007263 is part of a collective order 1007264

How can I force SAP to accept my 101 movement on  1007263 ?

Thanks

Pierre

[rupesh_brahmankar3]

Hello,

Error message C6022 'No GR possible: Order & is part of collective order &'.

In the collective order you enter a confirmation for the upper order before confirming the low level order. You should confirm all the order in sequence. IF error handling for goods movements" indicator is set in Customizing of the confirmation parameters.

Best Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[rupesh_brahmankar3]

Hello,

AS per standard SAP in collective order you have to confirm all the levels of order as the good receipts to the low level order post as good issue to higher level order.

Confirmation of the collective orders just like  the normal production orders.

Best Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[Former Member]

Hi

To do the manual GR in the collective order processing you have to deactivate the ''Coll. Order with Goods movements'' indicator in the order type configuration settings.

Satya 

[ameya_beri]

Hello,

Will using a control key with automatic goods receipt on the last operation, solve your problem ?

You do not need to do any GR then.

Best Regards,

Ameya B.

[Former Member]

Hi,

In the collective order process, when you confirm the child order GR for child order and GI for Parent order takes place.

Satya.

[Former Member]

Hi Satya,

In fact, I do not need this theoric quantities to be automatically confirmed or consumed.

My Customer needs to confirm the exact quantity produced for each order of the collective order.

Any idea ?

thanks

Pierre

[Former Member]

Hi Pierre,

In that case, when u are doing confirmation of child order ( semi-finished goods), u can do the partial confirmation. Then it automatically do the GR for partial quantities. Please check it. Presently, I don't have system access.

satya

[Former Member]

Hi Satya,

What do you mean by partial confirmation ?

Can you please suggest the T code you want me to try ?

Thanks

Pierre

[Former Member]

Hi

If you have

1) BOM with A (FERT), B(HALB) and C(ROH)

2) you have to maintain sp.key in MRP2 view for B(HALB)

3) when you create production order for A(FERT), SAP also creates the Prod.Order for B(HALB) also.

4) you have to do the GI (MB1C) for B(HALB) production order, then u have to do Confirmation with co15 ( here you have to do partial confirmation for the B(HALB) production order). at the time of confirmation GR will be posted for same qty. GI will be posted for A(FERT) material.

execute with these steps

Note in the routing of B(HALB), for last operation u have to maintain control key with Auto GR.