Standard Cost Estimate Transfer to COPA - Issue

[Former Member]

Hello All Experts,

I am trying to flow the standard cost estimate to COPA and for this followed many threads which I really found useful.

Thanks to , ,   and all who helped to solve the issue posted by users.

I have followed the below steps following the threads –

1. Define Valuation Strategy as 001 in KE4U.

2. Define Costing Key - KE40.

3. Assign Costing Key to Material Type - KE4J. Instead of assigning costing Key to Product Type I have assigned key to Mat Type. ( I hope this is correct ).

4. Assign Value Field - KE4R

5. I have material which belongs to Material Type ZALB and it has Standard Cost Estimate Released for current period 7 2016.

6. I am running KE21S for this to simulate the values for below parameters -

On the next screen Material Number and Plant and click on "Valuation" button which I guess should show me the values from my cost estimate.

Like below -

Now if I can see the material I am expecting to show the value here has a value for this field in above screenshot in CK13N.

1) I don't understand which step I missed here or configuration part. Experts guidance would be very much appreciable on this.

Regards,

Sharvari Joshi.

[rajneesh_saxena · Accepted solution]

Hi Sharvari

Are you doing COPA planning?

Regards

Rajneesh

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hello All,

Thank you for the replies.

@ Big Choi - I can see the value against LocalPurRawMat - is 600.00. Correct if I am wrong I should expect here Moving Average Prices coming from material master and not the standard cost. Right ?

@ Malay - Can you please tell me why so this should be 01 ? Actually I tried with 01 as well but no success. So I tried the threads stated by experts and found 03 and 04 also used. Not sure, I may be wrong.

@ Rajneesh Sir -

No I am not using COPA Planning, actually I am not even aware about this.

Experts guidance will be very helpful on this.

Regards,

Sharu....

[rajneesh_saxena · Accepted solution]

Hi Sharu

If you are not using COPA planning, then in KE4U your point of valuation should be 01 or 02 depending upon requirement of business. 03 and 04 are used in planning scenarios. And if you change your PV to 01 or 02 then accordingly change in KE4J and KE4R also.

And at KE40 'Period indicator should ideally be '4' Cost estimate matching goods issue......

Remove plan ver from KE4U (assignment of valuation), and from KE4J. Sounds weird na.. Try once.

Regards

Rajneesh

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hello Rajeneesh Sir,

I got this below error after changing the point of valuation -

I believe selecting 4 will have impact once I do the Goods Issue, or billing. Please correct me if I am wrong as per the earlier thread by couple of days back.

But here I want to transfer the simply standard cost estimate to COPA. Will 01 and 02 help in this ?

Now meantime I tried changing the VVMFG in KE40 too but that did not helped.

Regards,

Sharu.....

[rajneesh_saxena · Accepted solution]

Hi Sharu

Kindly share your KE4M screen.

Rajneesh

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hello Sir,

Please find below -

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Sharvari

There is some change need to be done during the confirmation they are follow

Step 1 : Go to Ke4U

Create Valuation Strat :  ZRB double click on on detail button

double click on assignment of valuation strategy

Step 2  : Ke40

Step 3 : Ke4J

Step 4 : KE4R

Maintain the value field as per the cost component wise from OKTZ

once configuration done then following are the user step need to be done then only value field flow to CO-Pa

1) Standard Cost Estimate run (CK11N)

2) Marked and release (CK24)

3) Create Process Order  (COR1)

4) Confirmation of process order and activity confirmation (COR6N)

5) WIP Calculation (KKAX) if any process order is pending during the month end

    (Provision entries will pass)

6) Variance Calculation (KKS2)

7) Settlement of Process order (KO88)

    (WIP and Variance in same t code WIP will reverse automatically as mentioned in point no.5 )

    CO-PA document will generate for variance they are as follow

    ( form point no. 1 to  7 Tested Working fine)

Refer the Attachment file (Process Order Settlement Flow with CO-PA Document)

          10 Input price variance

          20 Input quantity variance

          30 Resource-usage variance

          40 Remaining input variance

          50 Mixed-price variance

          60 Output price variance

          70 Lot size-/fixed-cost variance

          80 Remaining Variance

😎 Create a sales order (VA01)

9) Delivery  do the Post goods issue (VL10N)

10) Billing (VF01)

      (CO-PA Document will flow along with Revenue Cost along with Cost

       Component value in the Profitability analysis Document )

11) Check the Value on the report (KE24)

Hope this is solve your issue

Thanks

Trinath

[kamalkumar_biswas2 · Accepted solution]

Hi Sharvari

As told by Rajneesh PV will be 01 for actual valuation..and already you have changed it. Now the error is coming due to reasons

1. Either standard cost of the material not released

or

2. Check config in "set up valuation using material cost estimation...

If you find point 1 is ok..share the screen shots for 2nd one

Kamal

[kamalkumar_biswas2 · Accepted solution]

Hi Sharvari

Now i have checked your earlier screen shots...

In KE4R same value field you have assigned in multiple field..I think system is confusing by that ...assign one value field identical for field1...if you have requirement of multiple valuation view then define separate VF and define in 2..3  etc.

kamal

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hello Sir,

For point 1 is CE Released.

Not sure about the steps which you asking me ? Can you please tell me any specific step you want to see ?

Because I have already attached screenshot as above. If you can tell me any particular step I am happy to provide you screen shot.

Just recently I created new material and run the CE marked, released too. Can you please confirm if I need to RUN SD Cycle to bring this value ? 

I haven't done that yet ! And running variance and settling too also not done yet.

KE4U I have selected Value 3 in Period Indicator -

Regards

Sharu...

[kamalkumar_biswas2 · Accepted solution]

Hi Shar

  This is correctly done.. I have suggested another post..pl see that and revert back

kamal

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Sharvari

Please do the SD Cycle for the same material for which cost estimate is done as per the cost component line item wise it will display in billing document number

please check

Thanks

Trinath

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Sharvari

Only KE4J is the tcode where you need to maintained record type as "C- Order- project " and "E- single COPA Transaction data" related cost flow to Sd Billing document

please check and confirm

thanks

Trinath

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hello All,

Is it really necessary to post SD cycle as I am not intended to associate this activity to SD. And my simple requirement is to bring "Standard Cost Estimate to COPA".

I am not sure why SD as completely post processing of manufacturing associating with Product Costing COPA ? ( I may be wrong here at by understanding point of view )

Kamal Sir - What you mean by "I have suggested in another post......" ? Are you looking for any screenshot ?

Regards,

Sharu... 

[kamalkumar_biswas2 · Accepted solution]

Hi Shar

In my opinion for flowing standard cost to COPA SD cycle not required right now..this steps are for triggering std cost to copa....

2nd point I have suggested in KE4R to assign one Identical VF in one area not same VF all the VF 1...2...3 etc

Then check the result

Kamal

[rajneesh_saxena · Accepted solution]

Hi Sharu

COPA is basically used for profit reporting with a main characteristic as Product apart from others. When you sell only then you earn profit. Right? . So SD cycle is a must to run to have record type F triggered. Rec type F you have configured at KE4U, KE4J.

So my humble request is to run SD cycle for us with this newly created material.

Regards

Rajneesh

[kamalkumar_biswas2 · Accepted solution]

Hi Rajneesh

Without SD cycle standard cost VF will not update? Is it..? really I have forgotten then....may be you are right. But supposed I don't want to flow sd data right now only want to see the stand cost in my copa..is it mandatory to do sd cycle?

I am really confused..pl share your expertise on this

kamal

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi...

According to your error message, you should check whether you input the correct co-pa quantity field in t-code “KE4U” screen.

If yes, you should check whether you input the quantity on the correct co-pa quantity field which was set in in t-code “KE4U” screen when you input data using t-code KE21S.

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

HI Kamal

Please Correct me if I am wrong Co-Pa is basically Profit report is totally depend in sale transaction if we use KE21N Tcode to post the transcation here we cannot get any reference document where cost component data will flow n this tcode only line item will generate for which user will input in KE21N

Where are in KE4J we had mentioned the F- Record type means only during the Billing document Cost component data need too flow if you maintained F record type amount will take for KE4I Setting where you sales condition type are mapped with value field

further if we maintained C - Record type(Order & settlement)  then System will get the data from KE4U where cost component wise value field are mapped

so we need to run the SD cycle Then only cost component values will flow in Billing doocument

Hope this is clear

thanks

Trinath

[kamalkumar_biswas2 · Accepted solution]

Hi Trinath

   2 things...One ..cost flow from standard cost estimation other is cost from billing document what you are explaining.

   If we want cost will only come from billing doc then obviously so long we do not raise billing against SO , cost will not update in comp structure..but if I want to see my cost before billing whether we can do that or not...I think may be we can..if PV is taken 3

  So..1 & 3 combination may work for both the cases

  I have to test again then only can conclude otherwise how I can say only SD is the driving force for COPA? not very conclusive.

Kamal

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hello Big Choi,

What I am seeing in F4 possible values is "ABSMG & VVMFG", that's it and I believe this is because of these are marked by Quantity.

Anything here I need check or those fields somewhere else needs to be maintained ? And I missed those inadvertently ! ! ! ? ? ?

Your guidance will be helpful on this. However out of doubt I am running SD cycle too.

Regards,

Sharu....

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Kamal

I had Tested billing document in my system during the billing document it will update both the value field one from SD i.e. KE4I plus cost component structure from KE4R Both the value are flowing during the billing document for the product cost estimated run  it is showing me in Profitability document it does not effect any thing in finance document

Thanks

Trinath

[kamalkumar_biswas2 · Accepted solution]

Hi

But if I want only standard cost to update from KE4R as COGM before billing doc ..I think that will also happen if point of valuation is taken as 3 in KE4R...

Kamal

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Kamal

Yes you are correct i am taking back my word following are the manual config required to update the cost component value in Ke21N tcode they are as follow

Step 1 : Ke4R

As per kamal sir  we need take PV : 03 for manual posting

Step 2 : Ke21n

press enter button 

enter companycode , Product , Plant and customer

click on value field tab

enter the quantity : 5 click on valuation button on the top of the screen

then it will update the value of cost component amounts in the respective value field

thanks

Trinath

[kamalkumar_biswas2 · Accepted solution]

Hi Trinath

Thanks that you have tested..now sharvari can solve her issue also..

mark it correct for other to understand

Kamal

[rajneesh_saxena · Accepted solution]

Hi Kamal Sir

This is the point. I asked in my first post " Are you using COPA planning scenario?" and Sharu replied "No".

Considering above situation I said that SD Cycle is required to transfer (with POV 01 and record type F) CCS in COPA.

I would be highly obliged if you may suggest how the CCS can reach in COPA without using 03 or 04 POV and without running SD cycle. Means simulation kind of facility.

Kind Regards

Rajneesh

[kamalkumar_biswas2 · Accepted solution]

Hi Rajneesh

I appreciate your point...COPA planning and Standard cost flow (CCS) is another issue. COPA planning for reporting purpose where you will trigger data from various value field but data must be updated in that field is a pre-requisite.

You just see the process Trinath has shown and will understand that how by using P/V 3 standard cost CCS is updated in COPA field without SD cycle..so when you do your copa planning this field you can use for standard CCS value...so these are complements to each other.

  But when you want to capture actual data means object level (SO/Billing) you can use P/V 1 that why I told earlier that 1 & 3 combination will serve both the purpose but have to diff value fields to capture the data.

  Though I have not worked in COPA since last 2 years..so may be skipping few points..if other can put more light on my concept...

kamal

[Former Member]

Also one more thing I observed while performing KE21S COPA simulation system is considering Point Of Valuation "03" and Version "0" but I am posting actual COPA document from KE21N system is considering Point of Valuation "01".

I hope this will be useful for others !

Regards,

Sharu...

[Former Member]

Hello All,

Issue is solved now, I am able to get the value in in KE21S simulation after clicking on "Valuation" button.

It seems my mistake or inadvertently I did not given "Quantity" in Value Field section (I apologies). I carefully checked and followed the steps mentioned by and in simulation I am able to see the values after given quantity.

As suggested by sir and sir I am going to run the SD cycle too. Thank you for your help.

Thank you all, you contributed valuable time and shared your superlative knowledge in area.

Thank you once again.

Regards,

Sharu.

[malay_vakil]

Hi Sharvari,

I think there is some mistake in KE4R settings. Need to use Point of valuation 1 of actual posting.

Regards,
Malay

[Former Member]

Hi...

I think that your setting have no problem.

You check whether standard cost have zero as Local Purch Raw Mats’s value using t-code CK13N.