WWI COOK BOOK

[Former Member]

huhu,

what is the difference between:

EHS WWI Generation Server Installation Implementation Guide, Version date 16.03.2010

to

EHS WWI Generation Server Set UP Guide, Version date 02.08.2013

by looking up the table of Contents they are almost identical??

Thanks

Anna

[Former Member]

HUHU Gentlemen and Ladies,

Oh I was just literally wondering if and what the difference  are between the two versions.

I love WWI, I know sick huh? but I think it is a powerful tool.  I have been into EHS/ RM(RD) since 2010. but interested in SAP WORLD since 2000.

Just need to continue to learn more.   Though implementing from scratch I would so love to do, because I never have done it yet, well expanding from Regional to European level or Global. But to build up a system from scratch, oh I cant wait.

but one question-  generating Reports on a BULK level, when Specific info for certain material isn't then possible.( say Customer a, wants this material that is 13 number in MM world, but in EHS its a 10 number world- the bulk level, and this material is as Bulk but with some certain extras, but since in EHS only Bulk level is entered, these Customer specific info aren't available. is this a good way or bad way?
  Just thinking- because I
wouldn't do reports on any Bulk level- same with Labels.

Thanks I love this group!

have a lovely week
Anna

[Mark-Pfister]

Hello Anna,

Great to hear that you love WWI - you truly are a rare species

AnnChristine Bollhorst-Noack wrote:



but one question-  generating Reports on a BULK level, when Specific info for certain material isn't then possible.( say Customer a, wants this material that is 13 number in MM world, but in EHS its a 10 number world- the bulk level, and this material is as Bulk but with some certain extras, but since in EHS only Bulk level is entered, these Customer specific info aren't available. is this a good way or bad way?
  Just thinking- because I 
wouldn't do reports on any Bulk level- same with Labels.

I didn't quite get your question:

I understand that you have bulk and non-bulk materials for the same chemical/mixture.

Some of the information (i.e DG related / storage related) is different for the bulk compared to the packaged goods.

And you wonder if you should assign all material (bulk and non bulk) to the same REAL_SUB in EH&S?

Kind Regards

Mark

[Former Member]

yes that is correct.

[christoph_bergemann]

Dear AnnChrstine

the handling of the link between EHS and MM world is done in many cases company specific. If you llok from regulation point of view:

You need to different first DG part from EHS "core" part as DG is a kind of special. On REAL_SUB level you maintain data which is valid from point of chemistry. So "bulk" or not "bulK" is in principle no differentiation to generate two REAL_SUBs.

Coming from DG point of view: now DG comes in place. Please check the SAP Online help. High level:

because of regulation bulk need ot be handled different in comparison with "non bulk" But DG support this (it is, from my point of view, well explained in online help).

Regarding reports (e.g. SDS, Labels). Especially for labels the interaction with MMis quite strong (maintenace of label view, generation variant oi EHS)

Quite long story.

it depends more or less how you use the standard SAP material type (or you have used your won one) like "RAW", "HALB", "FERT" as mat type in your company and how you link this to the EHS world. Luckily. EHS is designed that it can support nealy 99% of customer demand (and may be only the last 1%: here you need a "modification" according to SAP standard.

There are some threads here talking about the "Bulk" level and report generation. PLease check. BUt story depends on: do you use SAP standard data model or did you "enhanced" the model using customer enhancements

C.B.

[christoph_bergemann]

Dear AnnChristine

may be some hints (regarding your topic. ust need to continue to learn more.   Though implementing from scratch I would so love to do, )

a.) SVT world (e.g. regulation REACH): here as well nobody takes care: is the material handled "bulk or not". This is not of interest iin SVT. The same chemical composition can be used. So why not assign boht material to same REAL_SUB. Same is true for regulations like: TSCA; CEPA ...."

b.) in most cases you will try to prepare "proper" data for MSDS/SDS to support the "transport" of the "materials" either bulk or not. Here some limitations come in place in context of chapter 14. The "DG "special" regulations are "only" supported using phrases etc. BUt in 99% of the cases. This is no problem

c.) as explained. the "main" challange might be "GLm". Here (same like SVT) the material world comes in place

Therefore: I am pretty sure that you know the "overall" archticeture/interaction,. Therefore I list this only for completness:

a.) even if you have assigned material to REAL_SUB you need to "tag" the material as "enivronmental relevant"; you need to assign a dangerous goods profile; you can "switch on or of" SVT and you need to maintain the "label view"

b.) for the "very" special REACH regulation: there is a "big" interaction running between EHS and MM to "list" the identified uses in appendix of MSDS/SDS

According to my experience: Exactly this "core" relation of EHS and MM is sometimes misinterpreted/underestimated etc..

One last hint. depending on size of company / complexity etc. A set up of EHS from scratch can take up to three years (including roll out etc.). It is a challenge (but you will gain a lot of interesting results and you will clearly learn a lot about pitfalls etc.). As well: in most cases: companies not only decide to use SAP: there is in many cases a "slight" add on complexity: There is a legacy system existing which need to be considered (data migration). And this is is in my opinion more complex if you have "only" the need to migrate data form old ERP legacy system, to SAP ERP.

Therefore. the introduction of SAP EHS from scratch is done normally step by step follwoing the SAP modules (Starting with SAP EHS--BD, SAP EHS_SAF, SAP_EHS-DG, SAP_EHS_GLM etc.)

Even if you succeed to have your SAP EHS up and running: changes will happen. Reasons are:

a.) changes in legislation (REACH, GHS etc.)

b.) changes in company set up (e.g. company acquire new companies; make reassignment, do carve out etc.)

c.) Companies decide to use other EHS options e.g. EHS IH (or in our days then EHSM)

So if you work in SAP EHS environment. you job is quite save.

Have fun with SAP EHS

C.B.

[Mark-Pfister]

Hi Christine,

If you assign both bulk and non bulk materials to the same REAL_SUB you can still have different DG information for them:

You can assign the bulk materials in addition directly to another DG_CL_SUB. The DG filling will for the bulk material use the data from the directly assigned DG_CL_SUB and not from the DG_CL_SUB that is linked (by inheritance or reference) to the REAL_SUB.

-> There is some flexibility in the system.

Kind Regards

Mark

[christoph_bergemann]

Dear AnnChristine

in last year a lot of changes happened in WWI enivronment. Some of these can be used only if you have proper SAP version in place. You should always check the OSS mentioned by Mark (and I believe inside that you will get always reference to OSS for current WWI version)

Especially regarding WWI: currently roughly two SP WWI versions are dispatched by SAP per yeat. Some of these version contain only corrections; but some of them add functionality.

You need always to be carefuly: how you would like to use SAP EHS? Do you use SAP EHS GLM? Yes / No?

Especially with Enhpack 7 huge changes happende in the SAP internal framework; and some of these changes have had impact on WWI development.

Best practise:

On SAP marketplace you will find here only some "hints/Advices" by SAP /e.g.together with a WWI sizing guide).

E.g. now WWI has been improved a lot for e.g. multithreading on Server etc. etc. Most of them set up issues are raised in collaboration: which windows version to use? which winword version to use? which access rights must be granted to windows user running WWI etc. etc.

May be check:

Here you will find some refrences to the many threads discussing WWI set up (and challenges there in e.g. RFC connection, WWI administration),.

If you check document

you will find this comment by a SCN user regarding WWI:

"Just to throw in my two cents worth. With regards to installing Windows services for the EHS Expert Server and WWI Server: one needs a pretty good knowledge about Windows administration as well (service administration, windows policies, event log etc.). So, you probably need an admin guy that takes you by the hand and guides you through the whole installation procedure."

Based on reasearch in SAP marketplace.  a number of OSS corrections are in place for WWI and related stuff in the last 6 month. Some of them are worth to look at and to install them.

C.B:

[Mark-Pfister]

Hello Anna,

Via the OSS Note 1394553 - EH&S WWI server installation instructions you  get the document "EHS WWI Generation Server Set UP Guide, Version date 02.08.2013".

How did you obtain the document "EHS WWI Generation Server Installation Implementation Guide, Version date 16.03.2010"? I think it just might be an older version of the "EHS WWI Generation Server Set UP Guide, Version date 02.08.2013".

I would suggest to use 1394553 - EH&S WWI server installation instructions  /  "EHS WWI Generation Server Set UP Guide, Version date 02.08.2013" as it contains all necessary information.

Unfortunately it contains all possible options / variations on how one could  setup WWI and not a recommended best practice advice...

Kind Regards

Mark