Solved: Require advice on SAP SD?

Former Member · ‎10-10-2015

Dear All,

After reading a lot in SCN, I thought to open an account to learn more and grow better in SAP. However,Now I am in need to get some advice from you!

My Name is Deepak and I am 24 Years old and currently working in Logistic As Executive and SAP SD End User. I have total 3 Years of experience in same.

I have done Graduation in B.A(Distance) and currently pursuing MBA in(Operation with distance) First Semester.

My profile is as under:

Maintaining the MIS Reports, Track sheet, Coordinating with warehouse and automating the business process related to warehouse and logistic. Taking orders from our stores and following up with them regarding the delivery.

Sales Order processing, Delivery Processing, Invoice Creation. Return Order creation, Return delivery, Credit Invoice creation.

Cancellation of Invoices, Delivery, and blocking Sales orders. Creating consignment picking order, delivery,Invoice. Goods receipt, Transfer posting from Return to unrestricted, Transfer posting within storage locations, Creating Stock transfer Order, Replenishment Delivery, Transfer Invoice, Creating Excise Invoices. Generating Sales report, Stock reports, Material document lists.

Two month back I have completed SAP SD Training from a unauthorized SAP Center in 35k INR.

Now my concern is that, I am not getting any calls and when I look in job portals then everyone is requiring at least 1-2 e to e implementation or 2-3 years of experience in SAP as SD Consultant? My training center advised me to put someFAKE experience of 2-3 Years then only I would be able to get calls but I heard when we are caught then it's criminal offence and could be behind the bars. And my current job timing is too hard 13-14 hours a day.But I use to study and practice 2 hours in a day and in office whenever get time then I use to practice in IDES on my own laptop.

Please let me know how to cross this hurdle? And I am not Certified as I can’t afford so huge money and taking loan is also risky because I saw in SCN people are struggling to get job in SAP SD even after getting certified? I don't know will I be able to get break or not?

So please tell me how to learn more and get break?

Thanks

Deepak

Former Member · ‎10-13-2015

Hi Deepak,

Try not to get too discouraged, it's always challenging getting into a new field when you're starting off.

Here are 5 quick tips to help get over this temporary hurdle:

1 - Whatever you do, do not fake your experience. There's a great article from here: That being said, you also have to frame your experience correctly. If you have 3 years as a end user with exposure to all the processes you've listed AND you help resolve issues (though not in SPRO), this should be showcased on your resume.

2 - Don't waste your money on a certification. As you've seen in other posts, the certification won't guarantee you a job and you're already ahead given you are an end user and have exposure to a lot of the SD processes already.

3 - Ensure your resume has the right keywords recruiters are looking for and highlights your experience. Make sure you have a LinkedIn profile (again, with relevant key words). It's less about titles and more about your experience. I know consultants who spend years only doing data conversion and have no exposure to actual processes- unfortunately, I was one of them a few years ago!

4 - You don't have to be a consultant to offer process improvement suggestions to your IT manager. Although your manager may be working with consultants, if you have an idea or suggestion of how you can improve the processes, come up with a design and propose it. Take initiative!!

5 - Network, network, network. You've already taken the first step by joining SCN. Join relevant LinkedIn groups. Ideally, attend in-person networking events, if they exist.

shaik_sajid · ‎10-12-2015

Dear Deepak,

Even after getting Certification there is no Job Guarantee. But Certification adds value compared to a person without certification.

Good to know that you are practicing everyday.

My advise is not to keep fake experience. Even if you get a job with fake experience, you wont be able to perform as per expectations and you will be fired or the damage will be done to the Project. With Fake Experience you will have a Guilty feeling that you have cheated an Organization.

Learn and Practice SD well and since you are a end user of SAP SD, you can try to contact the IT Project Manager of your Organization to get an opportunity as junior SAP SD Consultant.

All the Best.

Regards

Shaik

Former Member · ‎10-12-2015

Dear Shajid,

First of all thanks a lot for your suggestions!

Yes, you are absolutely right that few of my friends have done their certification in SAP SD and still struggling to get break for past 8 months and training center also doesn't provide any placement of what they say at the time of joining.

Yes, I am getting mails from companies but they are looking for 3-4 years of Experience SAP SD Consultant but I have only end user experience in SAP SD?

I discussed with my IT Manager he said NO since we have not any internal support team in our organization and support is given by IT company which had implemented SAP in our organization and here even after being as SD Consultant,very less new changes are done almost nothing! and almost SD related errors and issues are solved by me only. However, not through SPRO. I use to support in day to day transactions like order to bill, Return process,Goods receipt process, and some reporting as I have much better authorizations compared to normal end users.

Now I don't know whether will I get any break in IT Company or not? However, still studying and practicing in system.

Now it has been more than two months since I haven't received a single call or email from any IT Company which is de-motivating me. Now I don't know what to do further?

Whenever I get time, I use to read blogs in SCN which are mind boosting in SD/MM & career space.but If we do not get any ray of hope then slowly slowly becoming much tired. However not with SAP

Thanks in advance

Regards

Deepak Saxena

former_member183501 · ‎10-12-2015

Hi Deepak,

I am also in the same track, however, not yet started looking opportunities may be soon I will.

May I know where do you live?

To keep patient, keep on reading blogs of Sir Ravi Shanker Venna, TW Type Write and some more which might help you to work hard. Its my personal opinion what I am following-up and getting advantage.

Thanks

Kamlesh

shaik_sajid · ‎10-12-2015

Dear Deepak,

Its good to know that you are keen in learning SD and putting your efforts.

Don't lose heart, keep trying....

Try for mid sized IT SAP Companies and don't see for salary at the starting....

Now the challenge will be to find the mid Sized IT SAP companies in your city and then try to apply there.

All the Best.

Regards

Shaik

Former Member · ‎10-13-2015

Hi Kamlesh,

Thanks for your reply.

I live in Noida(India). Good to know you are also working hard. But, dear after searching in job portals market is very tough and it seems very very difficult to get break in SAP SD as every company is looking for minimum 2-3 years of Experienced SAP SD Consultant no opportunities for Freshers.

And yes blogs of Ravi Shanker & TW Type writer are awesome but still getting frustrating.

Thanks

Deepak

Former Member · ‎10-13-2015

Hi Shajid,

Thanks a lot!

Yes, I am striving not to lose hope. But, here in Gurgaon and Delhi NCR I have checked in almost IT SAP Companies and MNCs, Manufacturing companies but these are looking for experienced consultant only. NO opening for SD Freshers.

However, I have 3 years of experience but still I am ready to work in less pay 20k,25k,30k.....but the problem is that NO opportunities are there for freshers.

Recently I got 3 mail 1 from Manufacturing 2,3rd from Big IT Companies when I called them they said are you working as SAP SD Consultant?Do you have experience of minimum 1 e to e implementation or 2-3 years of support experience I said no then she said we are looking for exp consultant only.

I don't know till when I will not lose my hope.

Thanks

Deepak

Former Member · ‎10-13-2015

Hi Deepak,

Try not to get too discouraged, it's always challenging getting into a new field when you're starting off.

Here are 5 quick tips to help get over this temporary hurdle:

1 - Whatever you do, do not fake your experience. There's a great article from here: That being said, you also have to frame your experience correctly. If you have 3 years as a end user with exposure to all the processes you've listed AND you help resolve issues (though not in SPRO), this should be showcased on your resume.

2 - Don't waste your money on a certification. As you've seen in other posts, the certification won't guarantee you a job and you're already ahead given you are an end user and have exposure to a lot of the SD processes already.

3 - Ensure your resume has the right keywords recruiters are looking for and highlights your experience. Make sure you have a LinkedIn profile (again, with relevant key words). It's less about titles and more about your experience. I know consultants who spend years only doing data conversion and have no exposure to actual processes- unfortunately, I was one of them a few years ago!

4 - You don't have to be a consultant to offer process improvement suggestions to your IT manager. Although your manager may be working with consultants, if you have an idea or suggestion of how you can improve the processes, come up with a design and propose it. Take initiative!!

5 - Network, network, network. You've already taken the first step by joining SCN. Join relevant LinkedIn groups. Ideally, attend in-person networking events, if they exist.

Former Member · ‎10-14-2015

Hi Lan,

Thanks a lot for the suggestions.

Yes, I read this blog it's very nice and Eye opener for Freshers like me who completes course from Unauthorised centers and eagerly looks for opportunities.
Yes I too read in blogs that certification doesn't guarantee a job and a few weeks ago I read those books through my friends TSCM62_62 these in this book I found it's interesting but just for basic level.But, for freshers in IT Company here in India companies do have some walk-in and I think they directly contact to authorized partners. Hence, it becomes much difficult to find companies where walk-ins are held?
Yes I have maintained my profile in every possible networking sites but only I receive is job for Experience only.
Hence It becomes more irritating without any jack,calls etc.

Thanks

Deepak

former_member182378 · ‎10-19-2015

Deepak,

Looking into your current profile, you are working with warehouse and logistics/delivery execution. Depending upon your interest and exposure to SAP (as an end user) you could check if SAP EWM could be some thing for you.

It has more demand because of the less number of analysts compared to supply of SD analysts. But that does not mean it will be easy or the learning curve will be less.

TW

Former Member · ‎10-19-2015

Hi TW,

Thanks for your opinion and reply!

Yes, my working profile is into Logistic and warehouse but if you have checked my profile rightly then you won't have suggested EWM because I am working more in SD Related tasks e.g Sales order processing, Delivery, Invoice creation, Return process, Free of charge Sales order, Availability check and so on So I thought SD would be best module to grow in SAP World. Hence, decided to choose SD and you know I have also done SD Training then why to go in EWM in which I am NOT much interested too.However, I have read more about you I think you are an expert in SD so you may help me how to get job and get better as I am also not a certified.

And now looking only one option which is certification from authorized center by taking loan. Hence, probably they may give some placements and this may open the door for me No any other chance.

Thanks

Deepak.

former_member182378 · ‎10-21-2015

Deepak,

For success in SAP SD you need the following:

- Process oriented thinking

- Mastery in standard SD processes for example cash sale, returns, third party sale etc.

- Clear communication

To succeed in interviews, one needs to exhibit clear, step by step understanding of a business process and then how SAP SD can add value and solve business issues. This will be helpful throughout the career of an analyst. I put lot of emphasis on this and practice it everyday. Some related documents which you must study -

http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-59129

http://scn.sap.com/community/career-center/blog/2015/07/28/success-in-sap-sd--business-process

http://scn.sap.com/community/career-center/blog/2014/11/19/success-in-interviews--part-2-essentials

http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/sd/blog/2014/11/08/returns--a-comprehensive-analysis

Every SD field, functionality must be understood from a business pov. Your objective should be - how can I explain this field to a business users in business terms. This is something which needs exercising, practice and experience.

Think of "success" in SD as a life long goal...spanning 20 years, then these immediate "disappointments" (delay in getting a job, money etc. etc.) will not demotivate you.

TW

Former Member · ‎10-21-2015

Hi TW,

Thanks a lot for your reply!

These documents are really awesome.

But you are absolutely we have to practice it on daily basis but still if there won't be any ray of hope which gives disappointments then it becomes difficult tasks to accomplish it. and I know getting any first job is always a tedious task but if not any single call from any company disappoints me.

I don't know till when it will happen?

I more thing I would like to ask you as you are highly professional person, Could you please tell me that how to improve Communication skills, Process orientation skills, theoretical knowledge etc in SD?

It would be much helpful to me if any get any opinion of you.

What do you do to increase these all the skills?

Thanks.

Deepak.

former_member182378 · ‎10-21-2015

Deepak,

The ways for improvement remain the same, as for other things - hard work, perseverance, positive mental attitude, work experience and a never give-up spirit.

TW

former_member182378 · ‎10-21-2015

Deepak,

Improvement is a certainty if you can study, practice each of the three things I have mentioned and you have asked. In addition to the daily grind, self motivation is important.

By keeping yourself motivated you can get more out of each day...and in 5 to 10 years, have good knowledge of SD.

I am working on these points myself and these are helping me improve.

So, during the day:

Hard work, planning, execution > self motivation > again hard work, planning, execution > self motivation >........

TW

former_member182378 · ‎10-23-2015

Deepak,

One way to improve in SD is to challenge self and others (constructively), this way you will force yourself to go deeper into the material and get more clarity. Also the input from others will help you to improve and gain experience.

TW