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sap ehs - How and where do we get physical chem properties for msds

Hello All ,

I came up with a situation where we are looking for the solution for some properties in standard property tree . Looks like we do not get from the provider some informations like Physical chemical properties . I guess IUCLID gives us some information but for only those chemicals registered under REACH . Who does actually provides all these information . Any idea ?

Regards,

Krishna

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  • Posted on Sep 10, 2015 at 06:47 PM

    Dear Krishna

    anything on REAL_SUB level must be maintained by company themself; only "partilly" they can use data from literature (depends on the product)

    Anything on LIST:SUB level: many data can be prOvided by data provider; but you can maintain your self

    Anything on e.g. DG_CL_SUB etc. level: here the same: some data provider exist; in most cases companies are collecitng the data themselves

    IUCLID: there exist some interfaces between SAP and IUCLID (becuase of lot of reasons); the sue of these interfaces seems to be limited; you will find may be not more than 10 threads here to discuss the topic

    C.B.

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    • Hi Krishna,

      most companies purchase these data from content providers such as SAP. Here we are talking about data from substance lists only! Fot the REAL_SUB data, each company is on its own, they need to do the necessary tests to get the data they need for their products.

      A Google search is not legal. It will only bring results of data from other companies and you have no permission to use their data. Of course you can download official lists like EINECS or ELINCS and use those. I believe they can be used freely, but I'm not sure.

      Ralph

  • Posted on Oct 09, 2015 at 07:03 AM

    Hi Krishna,

    SAP offers a cloud content service called SAP EHS Regulatory Documentation. With that, SAP provides a full set of component data (including phys.-chem., tox., eco tox., etc. data), classifies products (REAL_SUBs) for SAP's customers, and creates safety data sheets for them. Via a connection between SAP's factory system and the customer's SAP EH&S OnPremise system, SAP can directly provide component and product data and SDSs into the customer's SAP EH&S OnPremise system. Certain data on product level such as density and flashpoint have to be provided by the customer, as these data cannot be determined by SAP's experts and have to be measured. For more information, see the web page or brochure.

    Best regards,

    Rüdiger

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    • Dear Pavan

      the SAP customers act in most cases different. Some of them do have "close" link to SAP some not (depends mainly as well on size of the company). Many customers get information from SAP using e.g. via "working groups" (like ASAG etc.). This company which have close connection to SAP understand in most case better the services SAP provides (like SERC). But you are right: SAP cusfomers do gave difficulities to understand terms used by SAP and to understand the services (e.g. long time ago it was called "mySAP" solution space).

      So I would agree on quir quite general statement: "We as consulting/implementation partners have had tough times to make customers understand that SAP also has something called as on-demand cloud documentation which should be bought seperately."

      C.B:

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    Posted on Oct 20, 2015 at 08:21 PM

    Can you integrate information from publicly available database, such pubchem, NTP

    Arindam

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