Is any one Monitoring on Moderator activities?

[pardhreddyc]

Dear SCNs,Very Good Afternoon.

I got concern on things that are executing by Moderator.Any rules framed exclusively for Moderators? or Rules only for persons answering threads?

Few of my bitter experiences had with moderators.

My bad Experience on J2IUN utilization concept:

Due to changes in Excise body in INDIA, from March 2015 we have only BED.So when we have pending Ecess and SEcess for utilization, in my organization, system was not shown the pending amount Ecess and SEcess for utilization.So we got clearance to transfer the  Pending Ecess and Secess amount to BED for utilization in May 2015.

Regarding this just to clarify my doubt i just posted on SCN, But Moderator simply deleted my thread instead of giving an appropriate solution.

If Moderator knows the solution he should admit it.But he deleted simply with out providing any solution.I have a very big concern at this point.Is Moderator is only final person to do what ever he wants in SCN? No rules and regulations before admitting such activities?

If it is so then kindly help me to know what type of questions that a person should post on SCN.

Second Bad Experience on ABAP ALV report on Notification:

There was a requirement posted on ALV notification report( Damage/Cause etc..). I hope he is a ABAP beginner, So what i did is  just posted all tables and the linkage of all tables to finish it off with a QUERY instead of writing a new report. For this moderator deleted thread and said user was asking for ALV report not this. As per my knowledge QUERY in SAP  is shown in ALV format. I just put it by thinking why new program when standard SAP is having ALV in Query it self.If my answer is not appropriate to user who posted it, can send a message to me.But it is completely different here.

If the moderator knows the correct answer he can post the same in same discussion instead of deleting it in my case.I hope it will not take more than 2 to 3 minutes for him to post.So that it  will help SCN to solve his problem instead of waiting for others to post.

Why SCN is not displaying proper information on Moderators.I think it would be better for all of SCNs if we have transparent information on all aspects.

As per my point of view SCN discussion is just like a debate session in a class room and finally arriving one helping or correct solution to the problem.So finally SCN person who posted  the discussion will conclude the helping or correct answer for him.Here i can say MODERATOR is just like a group leader who monitors and helps all to set the positive atmosphere at floor .But in middle of all these discussions if "Thread" it self deleting by Moderator with out providing proper solution to it, then in what way a person can have positive aim towards SCN.

I also have doubt, is SAP is monitoring on SCN activities?  Is there any one to help me  please?

Thanking you all in advance.

Regards,

Pardhu

[former_member183424 · Accepted solution]

Any rules framed exclusively for Moderators? or Rules only for persons answering threads?

Of-course yes. There are certain rules for moderator also which they need to follow. Including the SCN rules of engagement, they need to follow some extra rules as they are moderator. Not for only answering, they are the responsible person to keep clean the forum and embolden people to search before post.

But Moderator simply deleted my thread instead of giving an appropriate solution.
If Moderator knows the solution he should admit it.But he deleted simply with out providing any solution.I have a very big concern at this point.Is Moderator is only final person to do what ever he wants in SCN? No rules and regulations before admitting such activities?

Moderator will reject a thread if a thread violates any rules of SCN. Why would they will give solution as this solution can be found by doing a simple search (as I have said earlier that moderator is always responsible to encourage a people to search before post)? You know SCN has 3700000+ discussions, now in these days, we can find solution for almost almost every question by searching, if not, then at least we can find an illustration from previous threads. Moderator will allow a discussion which is unique with compare to previous all discussions. And yes, moderator is the final person to make a decision for a space as because they are moderator. They are the decision maker for a space to keep it clean. Mind you, they haven't got the post of moderator by just answering questions. They have the right to make a decision.

If the moderator knows the correct answer he can post the same in same discussion instead of deleting it in my case.I hope it will not take more than 2 to 3 minutes for him to post.So that it  will help SCN to solve his problem instead of waiting for others to post.

Its not about time, it is about encourage people to search and keep the forum clean. The same will be applicable here which I have just explained why would a moderator will answer a question which was discusses many times in SCN. It may be new for you but it may not new for SCN. I would really suggest you to search it yourself before answering a thread. There are many search options are available which you can utilize. If you can find answer by searching, then instead of posting any solution, just press alert moderator for the post. Do you really think it will help SCN to discussed one question again and again and again .......... ?

Here i can say MODERATOR is just like a group leader who monitors and helps all to set the positive atmosphere at floor .But in middle of all these discussions if "Thread" it self deleting by Moderator with out providing proper solution to it, then in what way a person can have positive aim towards SCN.

Yes, I agree with that moderator is a kind of group leader who is leading a space with his moderation. A thread can get answer within few minutes and moderator may not online at that certain time. So, it doesn't matter to reject a thread which has some answers if this thread is violating any rules of engagement. Its really good to think SCN is helpful place to get solution for your question, but you should also be sure that you are going discussing about a unique things.

Don't you think it is much better and knowledgeable if we can learn something new daily instead of these discussions which you know and you have already explained about it many times (or even by other) ?

[pardhreddyc · Accepted solution]

Dear,

I have given examples about my threads.About J2IUN and ABAP report.I don`t want to discuss the things which were already discussed in Forum.But few cases, still Moderator as a group leader he has to set things by providing it.

Could you kindly explain me what is wrong in these two threads?

If you look at the forum, there are plenty of threads still having not answered since many years and also we can see still keeping it open even they got solution.why moderator is not deleting these by sending a note to person who created just to keep clean as you said.You know that if thread is having status"Not answered" people will still post even already it is having appropriate answer posted by some one.what about them?

Do you think that asking these questions are wasting time?  I hope no.Because i was in very critical situation when i was having an issue regarding J2IUN utilization error, then i camE to SCN for help.But finally it was deleted.If i am wrong just show me where can i get solution for my issue on this SCN.

Regards,

Pardhu

[former_member183424 · Accepted solution]

I can't say appropriate reason for rejection of your thread(s) as I am not a moderator (neither I can justify your thread as it is not from my area). You have pointed moderation area, that's because I have given this explication.

Yes, there are plenty discussions which is still not answered (may be since 2008). It is for those users, who just created his discussion and never look into his discussion for further replies. That's because they are still open, but that doesn't mean those discussions are violating any rules of engagement. It is not a moderator's job to close previous discussion which was not closed by original poster.

As you are following MM forum, you should have noticed that what moderator did when a people reanimate an old discussion. You need an example, look into this .

[pardhreddyc · Accepted solution]

Dear,

If you are not a moderator, how come you say its waste of discussing these points in forum.one side you are saying its moderator who wants to keep forum clean, but at the same time yo are saying they are not responsible.

Based on your previous reply i would like to put my thread before you,

With above message, what information i can get out of that? As you said threads are repeated, could you show me the thread with answer which is already existing for my question on J2IUN?

Could you tell me what is wrong in this thread and I was literally struggling to get a solution for this.Finally we did it but, reaching to SCN and getting rejected with out proper solution does not make us feel good to approach SCN.

Regards,

Pardhu

[former_member183424 · Accepted solution]

Where did I say it is waste of discussing ? I think you haven't read my reply properly.

I never said that moderator has to delete any old discussion to keep the forum clean.

Why an old discussion should be removed ? As it was discussed in previous at that time it was unique. And now a days, You can find many related discussions, so anyone do not need to reanimate an old discussion. Moderator just removes the reply which is posted to this discussion.

And it is the right thing to keep the forum clean.

Can you please tell me is it your thread (you are the discussion owner) ? Or you have reopened an old discussion ?

[pardhreddyc · Accepted solution]

Dear,

What does the below message mean? I am just worried about my thread with out answer it was deleted.Regarding that i raised my concern.Raising concern on SCN is also wrong it seems as per you.People will come to SCN only when they have a SAP problem and makes them feel lost.

You are diverting the discussion.I raised this only for My threads.Before raising my thread on J2IUN i searched SCN and after deciding no answered threads on this issue then i put it on SCN.

Kindly show me the answered threads related to my problem.

Regards,

Pardhu

[moshenaveh · Accepted solution]

Dear Pardaha,

Could you please reply to my Email? That would be the best way to share your feedback and to allow to check what is required.

Regards,

Moshe

[pardhreddyc · Accepted solution]

Dear,

You said in your previous reply that :

But i am not able to find the similar thread which is giving any information to solve  my problem.Could you tell me where my thread is violated SCN rules? Hope you don`t know.

Again you said:

Even I did not ask you to justify whether thread is from your area or not. What is your area?

When you cannot say appropriate reason for my thread rejection.Then how come you say that "Don't you think it is much better and knowledgeable if we can learn something new daily instead of these discussions"

Every one is knowledgeable on SAP but comes to SCN family to have better understanding of functionality not for any other purpose.

Regards,

Pardhu

[former_member183424 · Accepted solution]

You didn't answer my one question yet.

"Can you please tell me is it your thread (you are the discussion owner) ? Or you have reopened an old discussion ?"

By the way, you have already requested to contact SCN team (Moshe) via email.

[pardhreddyc · Accepted solution]

Dear,

Yes i am the discussion owner.I just created my own discussion on J2IUN.

You did not answer my question yet?

Regards,

Pardhu

[former_member183424 · Accepted solution]

Please contact Moshe for a better explanation for your particular question.

I've already told you that I have given you reply because you had pointed moderation area. You had pointed in your initial discussion about moderator's rule, why moderator reject a thread instead of giving answer, Moderator is the final person to make a decision or not, why moderator reject a thread after getting some answer.

That is illustration of your pointed area not for your question. I doubted your question was rejected because of basic question, that's because I had given statement search before post.

If you are sure that your question was not basic and it hasn't violate any rules of engagement, then consult it with Moshe, your question will be back if SCN team agree with you.

[pardhreddyc · Accepted solution]

Dear,

Any one on SCN can copy and paste the SCN rules for any question.Every one will search on SCN and then will be posting based on lacking of  clarity to words their problem due to unanswered threads.

No one will raise any discussion simply with out proper reason.If you can help ,Kindly help by providing good inputs.

Now my problem is solved in my company.I did it.Even if it comes back, it does not give any added advantage.

Regards,

Pardhu

[Lakshmipathi]

My bad Experience on J2IUN utilization concept

Not sure where you have posted.  Your above query should have been posted in International and Unicode forum where I moderate apart from two others and I don't remember deleting / rejecting any of your post.  Moreover, I always ensure that if I reject any post, either I message the OP directly or add a comments as to why that post has been rejected.

I hope it will not take more than 2 to 3 minutes for him to post

It is purely any individual's discretion and you cannot force anybody to help you out.  Having said this, Space Moderators have their own set of priorities and it doesn't matter if it takes 2 or 3 minutes if it is not in their priority list.  Mind that Moderators job is not that much easy as you think and expressed here

G. Lakshmipathi

[moazzam_ali]

 Moreover, I always ensure that if I reject any post, either I message the OP directly or add a comments as to why that post has been rejected.

I witness this for G Lakshmipathi.

Thank$

[JL23]

The moderators can be found in the people tab of each space as well as in the overview tab of a space.

Then you should mention the space in your complaint so that the people who are following the space (moderators do usually follow their space) get notified, can see this post and can react.