on 05-16-2015 1:59 PM
We are newly implementing Simple Finance with HANA (release 7.4). With this version, it is no longer possible to create house banks and bank accounts with trans. FI12 (we are getting message FINH002 - use trans. FI12_HBANK for house banks and NWBC for accounts).
Creating house banks with FI12_HBANK is easy (like the old FI12), but I have an issue with NWBC. The long text to msg FINH002 suggests to choose role SAP_SFIN_CASH_MANAGER or SAP_FI_BL_BANK_MASTER_DATA. However, for both of them, if I push "Manage bank accounts" and "New bank account", then I am getting an error "Cannot find configuration for Bank Acount Management" (FCLM_BAM_MAINT 057).
Can you please suggest what config needs to be done to be able to create (house) bank accounts?
We are just starting a prototype in a sandbox system, so it is possible that some necessary business functions are not active (e.g., we know we are still missing the three basic ones for Simple Finance - FIN_GL_CI_1 to 3). Can this be the reason? Or is anything else missing?
Thanks in advance!
Hi Jan,
Please complete the settings in the following area and then try to manage bank accounts
SPRO > Financial Supply Chain Management > Cash and Liquidity Management > Bank Account Management > Basic Settings
Just play with settings and check manage bank accounts.
Rgds
MBN
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Hello Murali,
We are also newly implementing a pilot Simple Finance with HANA
(release 7.4). And facing same issue that reported in this chain, no longer
possible to create house banks and bank accounts with trans. FI12 (we are
getting message FINH002 - use trans. FI12_HBANK for house banks and NWBC for
accounts).
Based on all answer replay here,could that be the summary of action to follow?
1. Lunch NWBC
2. Have set up following SAP roles for users, SAP_SFIN_CASH_MANAGER and SAP_FI_BL_BANK_MASTER_DATA
3. Configure SPRO > Financial Supply Chain Management > Cash and Liquidity Management> Bank Account Management > Basic Settings.
In here where you Define Number Ranges for Bank Account Technical IDs, should this follow any range
based on existing Account ID numbering?. In our design Account ID follow AAA0
to ZZZ9, but we included here for technical range 01 From Nº 0000000001 to 0000009999. Now we see status up to 8000 (we don’t have so many..) but still cannot see our bank accounts through FI12_HBANK. Are we missing something? Or how this setting works?
We already run after migration activity on Migrate House Bank Accounts, but we are not able to see our bank account through transaction, we can see them on tables. But how can we make work FI12_HBANK accordingly to use it as FI12?
Really appreciate any help on this matters.
Thanks a lot.
Bárbara.
Hello,
I have the same issue in a new install of SAP Simple Finance On Prem 1503. Using the SAP GUI and transaction FI12_HBANK it is not possible to add accounts to the newly created house bank. In the FI12 transaction I would have the choice to add accounts from the side menu, however this is not the case in FI12_HBANK.
Does anyone know how we are supposed to add accounts to house banks using FI12_HBANK?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
John
Hi Barbara,
After activating a bunch of services and getting NWBC up and running I was able to find the account maintenance.
In the Edit Bank Master Data Role in NWBC you select Bank Accounts/Manage Bank Accounts. You will need the user role SAP_FI_BL_BANK_MASTER_DATA.
You will then see a list of your active accounts. Select one to see the detail.
Click the Connectivity Path button to see the house bank data.
Using this method I was able to maintain the house bank account data here and the House Bank data in FI12_HBANK.
I am having another issue in the bank determination config where I am receiving an error that the accounts are missing form T012 when they are showing there in SE16 (granted it is just a compatibility view). I will be raising an OSS ticket as I cannot get past that point at the moment.
I hope the above screens help.
John
HI John,
You are saying 'After activating a bunch of services and getting NWBC up and running' If you can give list it will helpful.
Also there is two types on is HBANK with Cash & Liquidity Management another without Cash & Liquidity Management. How it works out.
Do we have any document regarding in toto BANK MANAGEMENT in Cash and Liquidity.
Thanks in advance for any answers
Hi Raghuchandran,
You can see the services in the note 1974650.
1974650 - SAP Simple Finance, on-premise edition: ICF Service Information
There is also more information in the Installation and Upgrade sections of SAP Simple Finance, On-Premise Edition – SAP Help Portal Page
Sorry I have not concentrated too much on Bank Management yet and do not have any documentation.
Hope the links help for you first question.
Hi John ,
Thanks for info. Now I am able to start open and Account how ever. I am facing new issue where relating Work Flow even I am using predefined standard Template and Rules (Bank Accountant/Cash Manager/Key User are agents). Given below the details issue is not moving from Bank Accountant to Cash Manger and further the work items.
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We are in the process of setting up workflow in Suite on HANA / Simple Finance and the workflow is not progressing after the step.
Please find the details of issue:
ISSUE: Bank Master Data creation having standard WF process there are three agents namely; BANK ACCOUNTANT /CASH MANAGER/KEY USER.
Step -1 Bank Accountant initiate Bank Master record Creation and triggers to Cash Manager for review and approve
Step-2 Cash Manager review from his Work item and review and approve/reject and same will be notify to Bank Accountant for next process.
( we are now getting struck in this stage, as per the standard workflow, sub workflow WS74300047 needs to be triggered but it is not happening as it is not able to determine the agents based on rule resolution 74300006 here)
Step-3 Bank Accountant collect few information from bank say Bank account number and IBAN and save and submit. This next trigger to key user for further process.
Step-4 Key User will be process Work Item updating GL Master/Signatories etc., to particular Bank Master and Save and Activate which will close Work item.
Above we are using Standard Work template WS74300043 and Rules mentioned below
SAP predefines a Business Object Repository (BOR) object FCLM_CR for Bank Account Management. In this object, the workflow is being triggered with “CREATED” event below
The Rules defined / used:
74300006 FCLM_CASHMGR (2nd step)
74300007 FCLM_CASHOPER (1st and 3rd steps)
74300008 FCLM_CASHSYSCOLL
Request to you review and answer the solution if any has faced the same issue.
Raghuchandran.R
Hi John,
Thanks for your help. But I have a problem yet.
I have been creating the house bank account but it appears for me with INATIVE, so is it impossible to continous with others customizing.
Do you have any idea how can i change the status for my house bank account created: from INACTIVE account to ACTIVE account?
I need some Workflow or this is a simple configuration?
do you know how can do it?
any tips will be appreciated
Best regards
Adnan
Hi experts,
I am Implementing the Simple Finance and, I'm having trouble with the T-code FF7A (cash position), When I Execute the Tcode FF7A the system show me the message "Function is not available
Message No. SFIN_FI004 "
Diagnosis
You are trying to use the function que is not available in SAP Simple Finance, on-premise edition.
Could you help me telling what the new T-code or application to replace the old T-code FF7A in Simple Finance?
Best Regards,
Adnan
Hi John,
I am facing an HTTP issue while creating the Bank account through Manage Bank account in SAP NetWeaver Busines Client.
I have done all the Pre-requisite configuration, also have necessary roles assigned but still not able to fix the issue.
Can you please advice what could be the route cause.
Thanks
Rajasekhar
Hello Adnan,
I guess FF7A and FF7B are replaced with Fiori Apps.
Cash Position:
As of SPS01, the Cash Position Details app is enhanced with new Design Studio UI, which provides better multi-dimensional and hierarchical analysis capability.
Liquidity Forecast:
As of SPS01, the Liquidity Forecast app is enhanced. Please refer to the limitations mentioned in the "Release Scope" -> "Liquidity Management" section.
Please refer to note# 2149337 for more information.
Thanks
Krish
Hi everyone....
In our current setting, for every bank account, we have 3 G/L accounts in SAP - the main bank account, the check deposit and the check payment accounts.
We have configured up to a single GL account (main bank account) assigned to a particular bank account number. The system does not allow to create another Central house bank account to assign the remaining G/L accounts.
How can we go about this?
Your help is most appreciated.
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Not an easy setting: Here is step by step process:
Have these roles assigned to your your ID first:
SAP_SFIN_CASH_MANAGER
SAP_FI_BL_BANK_MASTER_DATA
Go to NWBC using command bar of your SAP main menu screen. It will take you to iexplorer in portal view
Create a new Bank account there again. Even if you have already created a House bank in SAP
Double click the bank account you created above & go to connectivity path tab. refer screenshot below:
Click on Add and fill in the account ID and GL details
The house bank accounts of your company are the bank accounts that your company owns. You can use them to process payment transactions. Each house bank account is linked to a bank account in bank account master data via a connectivity path. To create a house bank account, proceed as follows:
Connectivity Pathtab, create an entry with the following values:
ID Category: specify
Central System: House Bank Account
House Bank
Valid Fromand
Valid To
House Bank Account Datatab, specify a unique ID for this house bank account.The account ID can be alphanumeric. The length limit is 5 digits.
G/L Accountto which payment transactions should be posted to.
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Hi John,
Can you please brief about prerequisites for BANK ACCOUNT MANAGEMENT settings in 1511 edition. We installed 1511 on S/4 Core and trying to create same way in 1503 its not working.
1. HOUSE BANK creation 1503 was available Easy access and SPRO however in 1511 which is available only on Easy Access .
2. 1503 which was available on NWBC in 1511 which should maintain on FIORI.
I am puzzled please direct me on this.
Thanks,
Raghu Chandran
Hi John,
We are also having problem with House Bank Creation on 1503.
We are unable to assign Account ID’s to House Bank with FI12_HBANK in Simple Finance (SFIN).
This is because the dialog box through which the Account ID is assigned to House Bank is not visible in NWBC
We have already taken the following steps
:
FIN_FSCM_CLM
FIN_FSCM_INTEGRATION
2. Configuration of Bank Account Management Basic Settings in FSCM Cash and Liquidity Management (except the settings related to EBS/MBS and Bank Communications Management such as settings for Approvals, Signatures, Workflows etc ).
Any idea how to resolve this ?
Thanks in advance
Regards
Kumar
Hi John ,
Thanks for info. Now I am able to start open and Account how ever. I am facing new issue where relating Work Flow even I am using predefined standard Template and Rules (Bank Accountant/Cash Manager/Key User are agents). Given below the details issue is not moving from Bank Accountant to Cash Manger and further the work items.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
We are in the process of setting up workflow in Suite on HANA / Simple Finance and the workflow is not progressing after the step.
Please find the details of issue:
ISSUE: Bank Master Data creation having standard WF process there are three agents namely; BANK ACCOUNTANT /CASH MANAGER/KEY USER.
Step -1 Bank Accountant initiate Bank Master record Creation and triggers to Cash Manager for review and approve
Step-2 Cash Manager review from his Work item and review and approve/reject and same will be notify to Bank Accountant for next process.
( we are now getting struck in this stage, as per the standard workflow, sub workflow WS74300047 needs to be triggered but it is not happening as it is not able to determine the agents based on rule resolution 74300006 here)
Step-3 Bank Accountant collect few information from bank say Bank account number and IBAN and save and submit. This next trigger to key user for further process.
Step-4 Key User will be process Work Item updating GL Master/Signatories etc., to particular Bank Master and Save and Activate which will close Work item.
Above we are using Standard Work template WS74300043 and Rules mentioned below
SAP predefines a Business Object Repository (BOR) object FCLM_CR for Bank Account Management. In this object, the workflow is being triggered with “CREATED” event below
The Rules defined / used:
74300006 FCLM_CASHMGR (2nd step)
74300007 FCLM_CASHOPER (1st and 3rd steps)
74300008 FCLM_CASHSYSCOLL
Request to you review and answer the solution if any has faced the same issue.
Raghuchandran.R
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