inspection plan for plenty of materials and plants

[holger_hartung]

Dear quality experts,

I'm looking for a way to use just one controll plan for plenty of materials and plants. For that i had created one inspection plan with one group counter, one operations and inspection characteristics. But when i want to assign more materials from other plants, i got following message:

"Material and task list 1 do not belong to same controlling area"

The other way is, to create one inspection plan with as many group counters as i have plants and assign for group counter one (for example plant 0001) materials from plant 0001 and group counter two - materials from plant 0002 and so one. The disadvantge is that changes in insp. characteristics have to done in all group counters... However, material specification is no option.

Thanks for ideas...

[anand_rao3]

Sounds interesting!! Your findings in your first post are correct. You can not have same task list group with same group counter that can be used across all plants. The reason is - the plant code is placed at header level in the task list. So each group counter would contain only one plant code associated with it.

Creating multiple group counters with same group OR creating separate groups for each plant are the ways to address this, I think! If you are worried about changes to be done in MICs in all these groups then possibly there is a solution. I remember, once during some testing I had used MIC created in Plant A in Plant B. So you need not create multiple MICs per plant. I shall however also test this again! And if you do changes in that MIC (depending upon configuration setting) the older version of this MIC will automatically be replaced with newer one which would take effect in all plants wherever this is in use. As Gianmaria suggests, the use of reference operation set is also impressive, albeit I didn't try it. Thank you both for that pictorial explanation! It was helpful

Anand

[gianmaria_leoni]

Dear Holger,

As you wrote no way to assign materials that belong to different controlling areas to the same insp. plan. The only way is to manage a group counter per plant, but there is a workaround that could be useful for you.

In order to have a central management of insp. characteristics you can use reference operation set:

1. create reference operation set (QP11) with all the isp. characteristics you want in your final insp. plan
2. Create inspection plan with different group counter per plant (QP01)
3. In each group counter assign the reference operation set clicking on (Ctrl+shift+F4)

Every time you need to change your insp. chars it is sufficient to change them once in the reference op. set, all the changes will be get automatically by all the group counters that use it.

For any doubt I'm available.

Best regards.

Gianmaria

[holger_hartung]

Hello Leoni,

i had feared that is no other solution as one group counter for each material & plant combination. However, thanks for your workaround. I tried and it's work fine but the most benefits come out when you have many inspection plans with the same reference operation set. In an one to one combination (inspec plan - ref operation set) i can create and change directly in the insp plan - group counter without ref operation set.

best regards

Holger

[gianmaria_leoni]

Sorry Holger but I think that Ref. Op. set will work for you.

Maybe I can be more clearer:

Having more group counters for a single group (insp. plan) is the same to have several groups (insp. plans).

The combination is not one to one, but 1 to n (where 1 is the ref.op.set and n are the group counters)

So managing 1 ref.op.set. (where you put your once your inspection characteristics) you will be able to manage n group counters.

If you want to modify/add/delete a characteristic all the modification will be get by all the group counters that use the reference operation set.

BR

Gianmaria

[holger_hartung]

Hello Leoni,

i create following draft for my meaning:

Inspection plan 2 is for other materials and so we need also other inspection characteristics so we can't use reference operation set 1. Instead of that, i can use inspection plan 1 and 2 with group counters for each plant without refence operation set.

In my meaning reference operation set have most benefit when i have more than one inspection plan with the same reference operation set. Or???

[gianmaria_leoni]

I was thinking something similar to this:

With this configuration you get the advantage coming from ref.op.set reusing it more than once.

Gianmaria

[holger_hartung]

Hahaha, nice discussion

you can turn if you want but reference op set and inspection plan or insp plan group counter also must have the same controlling area. You can't refer a ref op set from plant 0001 to group counter with different plant not equal plant 0001.

[gianmaria_leoni]

Holger I'm so sorry.

I was sure that you would be able to link a ref. op. set to a different Controlling Area, but trying it I got the error.

This works only if different plants belonging to the same CO.Ar....

I don't know any different way to do it in a smart way.

[aniket_gautam]

Hi,

You can achieve this through 'Group' Go to inspection plan 'Qp01, Create a group z

here you can enter your plant, unit of meas, mic, and on header there is material

assignment tab, you can enter your number of material for this.

Note: UOM should be same for all material you are going to assign

2) change in mic will make a change in all plan of material.

[holger_hartung]

Hi,

thanks but how do i handle that? Material and task list 1 do not belong to same controlling area?

[nitin_jinagal]

Hi,

This indicates that controlling area for the Plant (with the task list) and that of with material (to be assigned) are different. Or in simple words, 0012 and 0001 are assigned to different controlling areas.

System encounters different values and thus, throwing up this error.

You may look into the option of creating as many task lists as controlling areas are there. Read the error details by clicking on ? for better understanding.

ntn