production order staging TR

[Former Member]

Hi,

    I am using the WM/PP interface with batches being determined in the production order. I am aware of the indicator in the material master view to have batch determination at various levels (order creation, release, in WM, at 261 goods issue). Right now my setting is at 3 so the batches need to be determined in the production order. However if for some reason a batch could not be determined, then I see the component line does not get copied into the TR which is created via the prod scheduling profile. So in other words, I get only a partial list of components in my TR.

Is there a way where I could have all the components copied into the WM TR irrespective if missing batches, missing parts list. I want to send the TR to be converted to the TO and then let the warehouse determine a batch manually, confirm the TO and then confirm the batch into the production order.

Thanks

[JL23]

How can you have batch stock in WM which is not available if you do batch determination in PP?

[Former Member]

I was expecting that kind of an answer and I know it should not be the case if the data is correct. However if the batch classification is not complete, and the batch cannot be determined, is there still a way to get all the components into the WM TR ? I just was to copy everything over.

Also one more this is if I don't have WM stock in the source bin, the TO in background does not work. I have to do it in the foreground. Is there a way to create the TO in the background regardless of the WM stock being there in the bin or not. In other words have the source bin determined and have the TO created irrespective of the stock being present or not.

[MANIS]

For the first query you need to correct data rather than finding the alternate for the second query Could you please elaborate this part " have the source bin determined and have the TO created irrespective of the stock being present or not."

[Former Member]

For the second part what I mean is that if I don't have stock present in the storage type, the TR to TO conversion should happen regardless. So the destination will be storage type 100 and dynamic bin number same as prd order number and source should be blank or some default storage type/bin which can be changed once the stock is really available in some bin.

I am asking this as I keep hearing from the WM consultant that if there is no stock in the source bin, then the TR -- TO conversion cannot happen. I want to make sure that is true and there is really no way to have that conversion done.

[JL23]

I honestly wonder about such requests. When I started working in 1977 the warehouse was almost the department with the most employees. There was no computer system telling where the material is, just a filing card per material with the movements and the total stock. The entire system worked based on the protein computer (memory of warehouse workers). Not really a problem for quick movers, but if a slow mover was sold, nobody remembered where it was and then all workers swarmed out to look for this material. An quite expensive ineffective way.

Everybody was glad when the first computer based system came, where we still only had inventory management and about 200 storage locations in our plant. This worked well for about a decade then it got replaced by a WM and I never forget the words from the manager who said that they could ship the quantity of today if they had not done this change to WM.

(We currently ship more quantity per day than in a quarter of a year at that beginning times, with less workers)

And now you would exactly like to go back to such ancient time methods, while running an expensive modern system,  and force the people to search the whole location for something which is not there?

If you have such mess, then implement cycle count and count your stock more often until you get a high accuracy into your warehouse.

[Former Member]

thx for the answer as usual. So I take it that if there is no stock in any of the source bins in the various storage types of the search strategy, the TR to TO conversion will not happen ? So if I can convert the TR for some line items, and not for others for the reason mentioned above, the warehouse ppl would have to do a manual conversion for the remainder of the mtls.

[MANIS]

While all other points are correct still we are not able to understand what do u expect when you mention "the warehouse ppl would have to do a manual conversion for the remainder of the mtls."

Also i see that similar query was posted by you in Logistic material managment forum and required input was already supplied by SCN member raghavendra sai