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Should I join ?

Dear SAP Seniors

I am a fresher in SAP industry. I had recently completed my SAP CRM certification , I have 4.11 yrs of domain experiece. (

My question is:

I got one Job offer from a Ahmedabad Indian CMM level 3, company who is new to sap industry ( they basically work on JAVA & Microsoft technologies ), they are not sap partners but they say they have a project in SAP CRM.

I had telephonic interview with them and got confirmation over the phone itself that i have to join very next day, when I asked for the offer letter they said come down to our office will complete formalities here but I insisted for Offer letter. Next day i got call from HR.

HR is asking to submit my oroginal marksheet and a bond for 18 months ( which was not communicated to me earlier )

Kindly advise. should i join over there or give more wait for more interviews. Am bit worried as SAP CRM Fresher openings is very less in market.

Waiting for your suggestions.

Thanks

Shridhar

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    Jan 09, 2015 at 11:38 AM

    Shridhar,

    The world is not black and white! So, I will not follow @Ravi Sankar Venna

    advise just because it is "unethical" or "these companies are exploiting people"...

    ...Main question is does it fit your scheme of things (your long term goals)? At this stage of your career you need quality experience (in SAP CRM) to develop your craft and increase your value. Will this company give you that?

    Reading about this company, does not give a "clean and transparent" image of it. Further, it is new to SAP. So don't go for it. But if there is some other offer, demanding a bond...then again evaluate and made a decision...taking "you" into consideration...not the company...not others' opinions/advises...just is it good for you...at that moment.

    TW

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    • Former Member Jobi Sebastian

      Dear Jobi

      Yes I agree with you .

      I am in Bangalore now. I am trying for more interviews , will keep your inputs under consideration.

      Thanks

      Shridhar

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    Jan 09, 2015 at 06:02 AM

    Hi Shridhar ,

          If you are having around 5+ exp and your going to a start up company means , you have to look all things.

    1) environment

    2) your roles & responsibilities

    3) your earning things & location wise also..

    Why they want certificates , if it is for verification purpose just show them on the joining date and take it back , don't handover until unless you are going to get a confidence on the company and

    bond -- you can write a bond not an issue , but the thing is if your breaking the bond then??

           
    Regards,

    Krishna

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  • Jan 09, 2015 at 07:04 AM

    Shridhar,

    Can you sit at home and keep studying the SAP CRM material? can you participate in the CRM forums (online)? If you can improve your level by self-study, then I will suggest not to join this company. This company is new to SAP CRM and you don't want to get locked into this company for 1 and 1/2 years. (worst will be to have no work, no experience after the end of 1 and 1/2 years).

    TW

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    • Former Member

      Dear TW

      Thanks for your clear words. Appreciated it.

      I can do self study to improve my level , also willing to participate in CRM online forums.

      If i can ask for your guidance on this context ,then please provide me with some links.

      Thanks again !

      Shridhar

  • Jan 09, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    I would rather refrain to join such stupid companies. I wonder how they even got CMM level 3.

    They do not even fit for CMM Level 1 with these pathetic HR Practices.

    This is one of the malpractice by number of companies in India, just to exploit the employees.

    Do not join. Wait for a better opportunity. I am sure you are going to get it.

    Best of Luck

    Best Regards,

    Ravi

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  • Jan 12, 2015 at 02:05 PM

    Shridhar,

    For me gut feeling is very important. Do I feel that the dealings of a potential employer is "clean", fair and consistent. If the answer is yes, then I might go for it. If the answer is no, then money and other perks wont add up to much, and my decision will remain to reject that particular employer.

    This company does not sound clean. So, I would not go for this.

    TW

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      Dear TW

      I had series of telephonic conversation with them and I do felt that transparency is not there.

      I decided not to accept the offer and look for more options,better opportunity.

      Regards

      Shridhar


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    Jan 09, 2015 at 07:20 AM

    Dear Krishna

    Thanks for the reply .

    Earning wise the package they offered is too low.

    They are asking to deposit the original marksheet till the probation period.

    With the Bond am ok with it.

    Only concern is about the oppurtunity for more interviews for a carrer in SAP CRM , how should i get exposure for job interviews, eventhough am registered with all job websites.calls are rare.

    Thanks

    Shridhar

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    • Shridhar,

      For freshers the SAP market is tough. This is true across modules. Further you have chosen CRM which has less opportunities than MM, SD and FI (generally speaking).

      In this period, you have to utilize your time so that you get most amount of experience. If this company would have had many CRM projects, then it could have been considered. But it is new to CRM.

      In SCN, we have a CRM forum. Also revising your certification material will be helpful.

      Chose a job where you get lots of work...so that in few years you will get a good and solid work experience. Other factors (money, security etc.) are less important, at this stage.

      TW

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    Jan 09, 2015 at 07:26 AM

    Dear TW

    Thanks for your clear words. Appreciated it.

    I can do self study to improve my level , also willing to participate in CRM online forums.

    If i can ask for your guidance on this context ,then please provide me with some links.

    Thanks again !

    Shridhar

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  • Jan 09, 2015 at 08:24 AM

    Hi Shridhar

    HR is asking to submit my oroginal marksheet and a bond for 18 months ( which was not communicated to me earlier )

    Is paying a bond to work for a company standard practise (especially if they aren't actually covering your education expenses)? If it's not paying money, what are you actually being asked to do?

    The fact they haven't told you and have also requested you immediately start is a bit concerning. Is this typical of hiring practises in your country? If they are unauthorised, how are they going to obtain SAP work (can they even tell you what the client will be)?

    Regards

    Colleen

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    • Former Member

      Dear Colleen

      This is not typical hiring practice in India ,since it was different and unusual thats why am asking to know the SAP Job market and practices.( does this happens in SAP market as I am new to this )

      Taking guidance from you, when asked them about the client , they said .."its of banking and financial services domain support project."

      Thanks

      Shridhar

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    Jan 12, 2015 at 12:53 PM

    Hi Shridhar ,

    I am in the same city if you wish to cross check background then give me company name.

    I am surprised how they want your original documents till your probation period ends.??

    Not any company keep such documents with them ..

    do not give it.

    -Avirat

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    • Former Member

      Hi Avirat

      Thanks for asking , I had telephonic conversation with them and I found that they are very unprofessional, I don't think I will accept the offer.

      Thanks

      Shridhar