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Hi Expert,

We have a requirement that need to build up BI4.1 SP3 in a seprate system. We cloned whole BI system from original prod (as A) to a new host, domain BI system B. We have cloned CMC from prod A to prod B with a different datasource. I need to config new system B, I tried to add a new SIA node on system B. When i add the new SIA node, with a same cluster key as prod A, but with CMS pointing to a different datasoure B, and also change cluster host name to the current host B.  The new SIA node will appear on the BI prod A. When I logg on to the new prod B CMC, it doesnt have any services again the newly created SIA B. Could anyone sugguest why it is happening this way?

Thanks, Youqin

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Former Member
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Hi Youqin,

1. What was the purpose of cloning in your case or was it cloned to avoid time consumed in setting up new system?

---> If the cloned system B is meant to be used for same purpose as System A then you could be benefit by creating "Replication list" & Fedration features available in BO system.

2. Is the cloned system in the same LAN or are they supposed to be in the same LAN?

I guess by cloned CMC you meant you had cloned BO System database/CMS repository?

Regards,

Sandeep Rana

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Hi Sandeep,

For Q1:

Yes. the clone B is to avoid time cosuming for setting up a new sytem. I did refered the doc you mentioned, but it seemed not working for me. When I add a SIA note in B, it also appears on A, and the B SIA note doesn't have any services attached with it.

For Q2:

The cloned system is not in the same LAN.

For Q3:

Yes. while cloning VM A(host BI system) to VM B, we also cloned BO system database and CMS repository.

Consulted with SAP suport, the SAP support suggest to install from fresh. 

I finally did a fresh full installation on a new VM sever with BI4.1 SP3, but I really like to know if there is a solution for our case.

Thanks,

Youqin

Former Member
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Yoquin,

I familar with this behavior and had experienced this behavior for valid reasons, though the purpose was different in my case.

I had done below "on System B"  in order to make it work:

1. Isolate cloned system B from the network system A resides; i.e system B should be able to ping system A. This is achieved via 'route' persistence command to be executed from cloned system. This is important else you would see the services of System A getting impacted for any action taken on system B.

2. Stop already running SIA.

3. update hostname of System B , as desired.

4. Create new SIA node with default services following general practice by specifying cloned       BO system database details.

5. Do not start SIA node once created successfully. Delete server entries from the cloned BO        system database the new SIA node is referring to. (Delete from CMS_INFOOBJECTS7          where ParentID=16) so that all the entries that are referring to system A are deleted.

6. Start the SIA. Thats' it.

You would require to update cluster key and cluster name.

Let me know if isolation of cloned system is ok in your scenario.

Regards,

Sandeep Rana

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Thanks Sandeep. The cloned machine has been deleted. Not have chances to test your steps. but thanks for sharing, I will note down the steps for future use.

Thanks again.

Youqin

Former Member
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refer the below document.

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Hi JRK,

I've refered the Replicating the SAP BI4.x Environment doc. but the it is still not working. I've updated the reply to Sid.

THanks,

Youqin

Former Member
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Hello,

If you need to a create a copy of an existing environemnt, you will need to install the same BI version on a new server that's having a different hostname and using a different cluster key and you have  to use a separate database as a CMS system database.

Then, you can refer to KBA 1275068 to help you to restore the repository of the existing environment (Filestore folder and CMS database) into the new server.


This should help you.

Thanks & Regards,

Insaf


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Ok. Thanks very much. Now we decided to install BI from scratch. but it's good to know that in our case it needs to reintall BI again, and then do the configuration.

Thanks for the help.

Youqin

Former Member
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Hi Youqin,

What was the procedure followed to clone A to B?

Was the original SIA on B recreated on new DB?

And changed the clustername as well?

Have a look at: 1275068 - Backup and restore of filestore and CMS database of a BusinessObjects Enterprise XI 3.x/BI...

This is the complete process to restore an environment from a backup.

-Sid

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Hi Sid,

Actually we've cloned BI hosted VM A to another VM B, the other VM has different hostname, IP, and domain.

I've refered note 1275068, and deleted parentid as the note. when I create a new node in the VM B(the new BI), the newly create node also appears on the original VM A BI.

I changed new node clustername, point to new database.

The new node doesnt contain any services.

Thanks,

Youqin