How to create Labor Operated Machines and confirm their work

[Former Member]

Hello Experts

     We have a steel manufacturing client for our implementation. the client already uses CATS to enter the time sheets for the internal activities using labor. but the customer requires to map machines operated by labor on the system.

Example:

Welding Machine XL5000 costs 10$ per hour

Employee #### costs 20$ per hour to operate that welding machine

Required:

- How to Plan that for a Project (( not using activity elements))

- How to Confirm the work hours done by the person using the machine at the same time<<Ex: using CATS>>. ((This is to prevent the mistake of someone confirming the activity element of the labor and not the machine or the other way around))

[MTerence]

Hi Ahmed,

Check whether you can confirm by using activity types... Multiple activities in a work centre and enter time according to labour in CATS.

I guess you need to enter CATS for labour / machine as two entries.

Let me know if this solves your issues.

Regards

Terence

[Former Member]

Thank you for your reply Mr. Maria

I just tried it. unfortunately the system doesn't consider the 2 activity types defined in the work center "Labor Hour + Machine Hour". I use formula SAP008 and check the "reference indicator".

I believe that is due to the activity type "Labor Hour" being set in the internal activity in PS.

I tried removing it, the cost calculation fails for the internal activity.

the system does not consider the activity types in the planning and the actual posting of CATS. I don't know how to do that in Project System.

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Regarding the solution of having 2 lines of confirmation for the same activity in CATS, unfortunately this will double the capacity usage for the employee causing a time problem.

Ex:

An employee is working 14 hours (8 + 6 Overtime) on a machine. confirming that will require entering 2 lines of 14 hours in 1 day = 28 H. the system will issue a warning message that the employee is working more than 24 hours in 1 day and reduce the amount of work entered to fall to 24 hours.

And if we didn't face the 24 hours problem the employee capacity will be overrated in the reports.

I'n afraid it won't work.

thank you very much. your help is needed

[MTerence]

Hi Ahmed,

We have this concept in Production Planning, where they confirm time for both Labor and Machine.

It will be like one work centre with 2 different capacities... Capacity with Machine and Capacity with Labour. Then assign the activities accordingly.

I still doubt whether the confirmation can be done for machine in CATS, since it inputs the personal number to confirm.

Can you check with PP guys, if there is any possibilities to confirm only the time ? I dont think it will work.

If they only want to know the machine time, they can also use measurement counter (Running Hrs) in Plant maintenance...

Regards

Terence