Delivery from project

[laimonas_bindokaitis3]

Hello guys,

We have a project delivery scenario here for "producing" complex machines, so there is a decision to go with outbound delivery (delivery from project)

to make it simple  - project is bicycle, it consists of materials wheel1, wheel2 and the frame.

Now I am studying the functionality of project delivery and SAP help says, that within project delivery can be processed for materials which are only assigned to project structures. Which means you are actually delivering wheel1, wheel2 and the frame, but not BICYCLE.  It also doesn't work for materials of text type.

So,

for me these standard functions are useless.

question -

What functionality should I use in order to have a delivery of whole result of a project - Bicycle ?

Thanks.

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Firstly, are you sure that you are interpreting the requirement correctly? I mean, when you say that these standard functionalities are useless, you are clearly stating that the functionality of Delivery from project is not going to work for you due to some constraints for e.g. it wont work in case of text materials.

Why dont you go with the simple scenario where in you create a sales order for the Bicycle and link it to the project? Plan the materials that you need to build the bicycle in the project structure. Now these materials can either be produced in house or procured externally.I guess that should take care of your requirement. If not, let us know in more details what you are exactly looking for and maybe we could think of something apt for your case.

[laimonas_bindokaitis3 · Accepted solution]

yyes, your proposal is very valid.

It is just that I expected more from outbound delivery functionality. And guys before my presence also did. Now we have one process step in blueprint called "delivery from project" and everyone expects it to be done with outbound delivery form project.

If there is no other option than deliver bicycle from sales order, than I will have to do some change management.

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi,

Go ahead with the simplest way that can solve your purpose. There is no point in complicating things. Talk to the business and convince them. I am sure they will agree.

All the best!!!

Regards,

Gokul

[sunil_yadav2]

Hi Laimonas,

in production industry we can implement the same scenario without PP. For operation of PP we can use internal activity for confirmation and GR for semifinished/finished goods by assigning same material with -ve quantity in activity.

and finally deliver the finished good using CNS0 transaction from Project. Make sure deliverable material should be in project stock.

thanks

Sunil

[laimonas_bindokaitis3]

Hi Sunil,

that seems promising. How should I bring my bicycle finished good to stock?

[laimonas_bindokaitis3]

After analyzing the existing transaction data, I have now more, let's say, experience on my topic.

In demo session the guy before me did exactly what you suggested - he made delivery from project for the item in stock, but not for result of the project. Bicycle was assigned to network as material component, that is why CNS0 was possible.  This is totally lame cheat action which is far away from required business scenario to produce single bicycle.

I will put bicycle material to sales order item which is linked to WBS, and then I will have normal delivery against sales order.

There is no better option for scenario when you are without production order.

I am not sure how it will work in terms of stock. I still have to investigate how to put the FG to some temporary warehouse. Please share your ideas on this.

[sunil_yadav2]

Hi,

when you assign material with -ve quantity system will behave as per you setting in requirement class where you have to set special stock as E which is related to sales order. When finished good will received this will automatically to sales order stock.

if you set this as Q this this will be posted as project stock than you can do delivery via CNS0.

thanks

Sunil

[laimonas_bindokaitis3]

I am not receiving finished good, I am manufacturing it.

I couldn't "sell" the idea to go with SO delivery to my guys.

So, question again -

we have non valuated non stocked finished good, which is actual result of project (this setup is needed for fancy Result Analysis calculations). I post some costs there without materials (or with text line items), only hours.

WHY cannot I create an outbound delivery from project in transaction CNSO and where should I do this? VL01N is not an option.

Thanks.

[varshal_kachole3]

Hi,

This is very much possible, please check the Assembly Item Option.

Hope it helps!

Thanks and Regards,

Varshal Kachole

[laimonas_bindokaitis3]

what do you mean with assembly item ?

[varshal_kachole3]

Hi,

Please read thru the link: Assembly item - Material - SAP Library

Thanks and Regards,

Varshal Kachole

[laimonas_bindokaitis3]

assembly item is the item with requirement quantity -1. At least that is what I understood.

Is it right?

I tried to assign FG material with requirement -1, but on CNS0 side nothing happens, I mean the FG material is not selected for delivery.

so.. what is wrong here?

[Former Member]

Hi Laimonas,

Adding to what Saurabh said, you can skip PP provided there is no production. You can give the reference of the project delivery number while billing on the bicycle which will be your sales material in the sales order.After all, the invoicing is done on the bicycle and not on the individual materials.

Regards

Varun

[former_member195427]

Create BOM for Bicycle being a FG and wheels being dependent requirements. Explode BOM onto project, make in-house production or external procurement as per material procurement type (MRP2) and assemble it within your project or production order. Do GI to warehouse from production order and then to project.check stock /requirement list and made the delivery from project or use sales order for delivery.

Above is a basic process which can be applicable for your scenario.

Regards

Saurabh

[laimonas_bindokaitis3]

Thank you Saurabh for sharing.

Your options have a lot of steps I must say. I want to get this done without production order. Is it possible to get bicycle on stock from project ? When you get it in stock, then, like they say in movies, everything is possible.

[former_member195427]

Is is possible Laimonas. Precondition is procurement type of material (MRP2 view) must allow external procurement of that material. In this case you can procure it from external party(vendor) then do GRN for Inventory and later do GI to project stock from inventory.(GI to project you can do against material reservation also)

Or You can check if any/sufficient stock exist of those required material in Inventory already and then you transfer those stock to project as project stock.

PS: Simple point, you can skip PP if you don't want any in house production of these materials.

Thanks

[Former Member]

HI Laimonas,

As far as I understand and adding to what Gokul told even though the final product is bicycle, the materials being produced/procured externally in house are wheel 1, wheel 2 and the frame.

The ones which can be delivered from the project are the ones which are produced in house/procured externally.(which come into project stock)

(in your case it will be wheel 1, wheel 2 and the frame).

This does not mean that the billing is done on each on the individual materials even though we have conducted the delivery of these materials from the project.  (wheel 1, wheel 2 or on the frame). Billing shall be done on the bicycle as a whole.

Please mark this answer as helpful in case it solves your query.

Regards

Varun Rudrabhatla

[laimonas_bindokaitis3]

yes but delivery will happen for wheel 1 wheel2 and frame. When it comes to 500 pieces, which are not necessarily material masters, the solution becomes really difficult to promote.

So now the question is - How can I deliver in one line item the project-bicycle? Is this  possible only if bicycle is a material master in sales order item, which means you process delivery not from project, but from sales order with reference to WBS? is it correct?

Production order is excluded from solutioning.