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[Former Member]

Hi Experts

In enterprise structure

Personal Area: Means only the geographical location or does it have any meaning pls explanin me in detail

Personal Sub Area:Pls give me correct meaning of it

Employee Group: meaning

Employee sub group :meaning in saphr perspective

[vianshu · Accepted solution]

Hi Venkata,

Ideally Personnel Area represents the location. However, depending on the requirements, sometimes verticals of the company are also represented as personnel area and location is represented as personnel subarea.

Let us say that a mining company has verticals in terms of products. So you have coal, ironore, aluminium as personnel areas and subareas will be locations from where these operate.

Some companies do the reverse. They keep locations as personnel areas and subareas will be as ironore, aluminium, coal and so on.

It all depends on requirements to be addressed.

SAP recommends personnel area as geographic location.

Employee group helps to group employees for whom similar employment conditions and legislation apply like active employees, retirees, salaried employees and so on. Again, depending on the requirements, you can create your own employee groups.

Employee subgroup is a further subdivision within the employee group. You may want to differentiate active employees as employees, contractors and so on. You can also create your own employee subgroup to achieve the requirements.

Please ensure that while arriving at the personnel subareas and employee subgroups, you see if you are able to meet variations in employment conditions for all the different set of employees at different personnel subareas. That will help you to arrive at the total no. of PA, PSA, EG and ESG

I hope this helps.

Thanks and regards,

Vivek BArnwal

Thanks and regards,

Vivek Barnwal

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Vivek

Thank you for quick response like in the above eg for mining factory PA and PSA are the same right

if u dont mind pls explanin me bleow  thing which you have sent to me

Please ensure that while arriving at the personnel subareas and employee subgroups, you see if you are able to meet variations in employment conditions for all the different set of employees at different personnel subareas.

[vianshu · Accepted solution]

What I mean is that you should try to find out if there are different requirements for employees at different locations and units.

There may be certain set of employees to whom you give specialist allowance and for others, you don't give. So you would need to ask client who are these set of employees and accordingly see if you need a separate employee subgroup for this purpose.

Please refer to table V_001P_ALL (Personnel Subarea Grouping) and V_503_ALL (Employee Subgroup Grouping) for different functionalities on which you should be questioning client to understand if the requirements for employees vary regarding quotas, absences, attendances, public holidays, and so on.

I hope this helps.

Regards,

Vivek

[vianshu · Accepted solution]

Hi Venkata,

Is this clear now to you?

Regards,

Vivek

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Vivek

it is pretty clear thank you

[former_member193652]

Hi venkata,

Enterprise structure affects almost PT an PY customizing. So you should not only look reports requirements but also your PT and PY requirements too.

It's better to have which classification can be done by Employee Subgroup Grouing and Personnel Subarea Grouping in V_503_ALL and V_001P_ALL views respectively. Open these view by SM30 Tcode.

Regards,

Omid