Purchase Orders - Subcontracting wrong movement type 545

[Former Member]

First of all this is not about asking a clarification of what is MVT 545 or MVT 543

I'm asking why the system is behaving in this way however there is no BOM for the material or even negative indicator

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Dears ,

We are facing a problem regarding subcontracting purchase orders , as for the same Material & same Vendor , some times while we are receiving purchase orders the MVT 545  shows up instead of 543 , This happen automatically and we ca not change it , However for other purchase orders for the same Material & Vendor it shows up MVT 543 which is ok for us

We need to make sure that the MVT is 543 while we are reviving , So could you please clarify the reason of this system wrong behavior

Note : our purchase orders are a reference to a PM order

The problem is that we didn't create any BOM for this material , and the second thing that some POs for the same material work fine and posts with MVT 543 not with 545

[JL23]

how could you have a subcontract order without BOM? How should SAP calculate the costs without BoM?

Check the details of the material tab in item details of  your purchase  order.

Or do you just order the service and no material? This would be the PP route of subcontracting, here you would not have any consumption with 543 when you do a goods receipt.

543 is a consumption, 545 is reception of a by-product, this is based on the definition in your BOM.

[Former Member]

First of all thanks for your reply and not just closing the topic like what happened to me last two days for the same issue

- Regarding the issue , I have checked CS15 "BOM Report" and also check the tables MAST & STPO for the material and didn't find any BOM for it

but if you mean the component button in the material tab , i have checked it and there is no negative sign column  in the components

I also like to highlight that the same material with the same vendor , some times it posts 543 and some times it posts 545 , that what makes me think that it maybe not the BOM , cause if it is the BOM it will be behaving this way in all purchase orders not only in some

[JL23]

If you have no formal BOM then somebody must have entered the components either manually or they got carried over from the PM order to the PO item material tab.

So you basically need to compare a components tab from a PO where you get 543 movements with a components tab where you get 545 movements.

If you could post screenshots, then the people here could do that for you

[Former Member]

Here is the pictures

Firstly Here is faulty PO components 

and here is while trying to post GR , the MVT 545 shows automatically

Secondly Here is normal PO components 

and here is while trying to post GR , the MVT 535 shows automatically which is normal for us

[former_member183424]

I assume, how you can use two different description for one material number ?

[JL23]

From those screenshots I cannot see any root cause, the components overview really look equal and okay.

I had expected a minus sign to the component quantity.

Please search those components from your 2 orders  in table   RESB.

RESB-EBELN is the purchase order number

Tell what value you have for  the field RESB-SHKZG

I actually expect a S for the component that was posted with 545 movement  and a H for the component posted with 543

[Former Member]

The shocking that it is not H or S , it is null

So what is the reason , and how can we fix it ??

[JL23]

I would start with cancelling the wrong document

then I would create a new PO item and check if the SHGKZ is filled correctly.

if correct, then you can post a new receipt.

I just checked my huge RESB table and could not find any record related to a purchase order which has no entry in SHGKZ

I would investigate together with PM team on their work order if there is something that could cause this issue.

Worst case I would open a message at SAP support.

[Former Member]

Can you do an F1 on this field beside the requirement date and post a screenshot? I do not see in my system in a normal SC order without bom

Also, you seem to be doing a recursive subcontracting process, you are supplying to and receiving from the vendor, the same material. Is this your business process?

[Former Member]

Material Provision Indicator

This key indicates that the BOM item is subject to material provision.