Profit Center Derivation in FB01

[former_member981982]

Dear SAP experts,

During we’re doing FI posting via FB01 we found that after filling the PSG data (the real cost object), Profit center is derived following to Profit center in Material Master based on KEDR maintenance but after filling statistical cost center, the profit center is re-derived again following to Profit center in Cost center Master although it’s not the real cost object.

As known, the stat. profit center should be derived following to the real cost object, but why it’s not. I tried to find out the reason and assumed that it’s may be the priority of Cost center is higher that PSG since it’s the master data but PSG is not. Is it correct? And is it the SAP standard?

However, have any SAP note or anyway else to force the profit center according to profit center as Material master in PSG which is the real cost object?

Thank you and best regards,

[ajaycwa1981]

Hi

PSG is a CO object but it does not have a PC of its own.. Hence, depending on the derivation rules, system derives the PSG from CO object

If you go to KEDR, click on Menu View -> Display All Steps , you can see that Derivation rule to derive PC from Material master comes earlier than PC from WBS or Internal Order.. hence, PC from material master gets replaced

May be you can write the derivation rule once again to derive the PC from Product/Plant and keep this as Derivation rule at the end... In your new derivation rule, click on the magnifiying lens icon beside PROFIT CENTER and make below settings

Br, Ajay M

[former_member981982]

Dear Ajay M,

Thank you for your helping.

I have created new step to re- derive the PC from Product/Plant again in the last step of KEDR and choose “Overwrite with new value even if new value is initial”. After testing, the Profit center is correct in COPA, KE24 report shows correctly PC as in Mat. Master however for the Profit center in FI document and PCA report, KE5Z, PC still be PC as in Cost center.

Have anyway to correct PC for all the side related?

Thank you and best regards,

[ajaycwa1981]

Hi

Why are you entering the Cost Center in this posting? Is it important for you?

Ideally SAP should give an error KE396 is the PC in FI and COPA PSG is not same.. I am wondering why it did not stop you in this case..

Br. Ajay M

[former_member981982]

Hi Ajay

My user would like to see the report of costs in Cost center so that they have put cost center and PSG together.  With PC derivation, PC should be derived from PSG which is real object but it’s not, PC was re-derived from Cost center which is the statistical. So they have suspected and need to know how to force PC according to PSG.

As I known, I agree with you PC of both Cost center and PSG should be the same. I have replied them to consider and revise the cost center.

However, in case they really want to use the cost center which PC is different in PSG, do you have any way to force PC according to PSG?

Have you any more idea?

Thank you very much.

Best regards,

[Former Member]

Hi

I think here the main issue is in FI and not in COPA. What you need to do is to devise a substitution rule to derive profit center from material + plant combination for these specific scenarios

OR

Check if you can use cost center (perhaps new one) with missing profit center information in its master data.

Hope it helps and works for your requirement.

Regards

Mustafa

[former_member182575]

If you want PSG and PCA to be the same then use an substitution in FI that has the same logic as PSG KEDR.

Regards

Waza