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VPRS in returns

former_member313514
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Business is using Cost of material and markup to determine final sales price of the material and below is how the pricing procedure looks like:

Condition TypeExample
Cost$5
Mark-Up (This is the condition table we maintain)$1
Final price (Cost + Mark up)$6

But in scenario where cost of material changes, Return sales order uses the new cost and determine different price value as compared to original sales order (created before change of the cost) and hence customer is credited with different dollar amount.

Below is an example:

Sales order 100 created on Jan 1st 2014 and as per above table the final price of the material is $6.

Material were delivered and customer was billed.

Cost of the material changed from $5 to $7 on Jan 7th 2014.

Return sales order was created on Jan 8th 2014 for original order but now return order has price as $8 (New cost + mark-up)

So customer will be credited $8, which is wrong.

Experts, can you please give me some design options to fix this problem.

I have played with copy control routines without much success.

Thanks in advance.

Message was edited by: G Lakshmipathi

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phanikumar_v3
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Dear Gurjeet,

from your post The procedure as i understood like below:

Sales order>>>Delivery>>>Billing--

If returned, Return order>>Return delivery >>>Billing(Ex Credit Memo).

I saw if you are maintaining the price at delivery why you are trying at VTAF copy controls?

What is your Return delivery Document type(LR in Standard)--Have you tried with VTLA and As well as VTFL(with Pricing type D or G)

Phanikumar

former_member205178
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Hi Phani,

I might be missing something here.

I believe based on Gurjeet's reply to Lakshmipathi, it looks like he is getting the wrong VPRS in Return Delivery process. He has mentioned LIPS-WAVWR which is Delivery Line Item Value.

From what I can understand they have activated delivery pricing.

Gurjeet:

Can you clarify something here. In the initial post you have mentioned the Return Order having the wrong VPRS but subsequently in reply to Lakshmipathi, you have stated it to be Return Delivery.

Which one is true. Why dont you give screen shots of the original and return documents clearly with all details of the pricing screens.

Thanks.

former_member313514
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I saw below BADI which seems relevant for my requirement.

Though i am still looking at solution via configuration.

Lakshmipathi
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Check this thread where similar discussion had taken place

G. Lakshmipathi

former_member313514
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Thanks for your response G. Lakshimipathi.

Through copy control routines we have managed to have same price in return sales order, problem is that in delivery document SAP again redetermines it and that's what it is using for PGI and accounting documents have redetermined

In copy control from invoice to sales order (return order) VTAF we have 'D' instead of 'G' and all the conditions are copied right, even VPRS.

But we have activated the pricing in delivery and I don't know if it's the reason but when we create the delivery, the VPRS and the LIPS-WAVWR (and the posting value of the items) are redetermined according to the actual price. There is no copy control to determine price from return order to delivery.

Please could you help me...

former_member205178
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Hi Gurjeet,

Well let me try to interpret this from another angle. I am not sure whether this can be of any big help, but does not harm reading it through I guess

For the PGI [in returns case the PGR] Process the Cost for the Material Document Accounting entries is determined from the Material Master Valuation.

VPRS in Sales Order is also derived from the Material Master Valuation Field.

While I am not too familiar with the working of Pricing Procedure in the delivery process[ aware of all the settings stuff but never worked in actual real time] but that looks like the most likely place from which you are getting the price too in this case.

The only meaningful suggestion I can give is that you can check if it is a Moving Average or the Standard Cost that is used for valuation. That may also explain the difference. I am sure you looked at this place already.

I agree with you that there is no Copy Control stuff from Order to Delivery for the Price Conditions.

I will see and find if there is any way of knowing this for sure.

Have a good one. 

Thanks.

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Set up the copy control for Return order to copy the original value from the order/invoice and not redetermine the price.

former_member313514
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Hi Vivek,

We have done that and it works fine in return sales order.

But when we create delivery document and post goods return, prices are redetermine and not copied from return sales order.

I dont think SAP gives any option to copy pricing condition values from sales order to delivery.

Not sure what other changes are needed to make it flow all the way till Invoice stage.

Will appreciate if any of you can give some pointers / suggestions.