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mithu_mukhejee
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Hi ,

I have done the required configuration for credit managemnet .

Now as per this config ,It shows every error I need .

But now my requirement is to put a check in Sales order change mode also .

Means when I am in change mode of sales order ( VA02) ,it is showing me the information message for overdue ,but its allowing to save the order .

I need this as per done in sales order creation mode .

Kindly help .

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Former Member
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Hi Shumi,

in OVA8, in document controlling area, entry "no credit check" you can use some some controls that can help you.  Standard value 1 runs program LVKMP001, 2 runs LVKMP002...

LVKMP001 checks among other things new value and old value of the sales orders. You may create your own program based on this one according to your needs. Ask for the help of an abaper.

Regards,

JM

phanikumar_v3
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If you are trying to change the Quantity for an approved sales order--system will again do credit calculations---Acts accordingly based on your OVA8 settings.

What exactly you are telling--am i missing any!!!!

Phanikumar

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Hi,

Are you using simple or automatic credit check ??

Please tell me whether I have understood your problem correctly with the below description ,

1. Created a Sales order with value 1000 rs. Error occurred due to credit check.

2. Created a sales order with lesser value, so that no credit error happens.

3. opening the same sale order in change mode and making it to cross the value of 1000. (Only information is getting displayed, without showing error)

right ?

Thanks,

Manoj

mithu_mukhejee
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I have not done the config for credit limit ....

I have done automatic credit check ..

When customer will be overdue ,That time system wont allow you to create or change the sales order .

jignesh_mehta3
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Hello,

You may also use the Next Review Date option & mark the reaction as B or D. Also enter Number of days as required.

This setting will ensure that Previously released documents will once again go for Credit Check if they are processed after a certain number of days.

Thanks,

Jignesh Mehta

Former Member
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Hi,

Released documents will be rechecked for credit if you maintain these fields in OVA8.

Specify what % of deviation is allowed for no credit check. i.e., if you specify 1%, system will run a credit check only if your document value is more than 1% above original value. You can also specify number of days to be elapsed before the next credit check.

moazzam_ali
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Hi

As per my knowledge there is no create/change specific check in standard credit check. If it is givving error message in create mode then it must give error message in change as well. Please check if you have used some userexit or any modification in credit control settings. Also make sure are you checking for the same order in VA01 and VA02.

Thank$

mithu_mukhejee
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Hi MoazzaM ,

you are correct .,in sales order creation level it is giving me the error so it is not allowing me to save the sales order .but when I am in the change mode of that sales order ,its giving me the information but allowing me to save the sales order .

No user exit used .

moazzam_ali
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Hi

You are saying that it is giving you error in VA01 and not allowing you to save the order. In your next statement you said that for that same order in VA02 it is allowing you to save the order. How come to opened the order in VA02 which was not yet saved in VA01

Thank$

jpfriends079
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Can you share screenshot of your configuration from OVA8 which applicable on this sales order?

Thanks, JP

mithu_mukhejee
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he he ...

MoazzaM,I meant in my first level of testing in Va01 it is giving error ..

If i take another order in VA02 ,its allowing me to save the order ...whether the customer is same ( for which amount is over due )

mithu_mukhejee
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mithu_mukhejee
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I am getting the following errors while I am in VA01 & VA02 screens:

The first screen shot is for V1167 - VA01 ,V1166 - VA02 .

the messages are diffrent .

moazzam_ali
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Shumi

I have checked this and you are right. System is allowing to save previously created orders i.e. those orders which you have created before making this change in credit management OVA8. This means that this is normal behavior and what you need to do is to block all previous orders and create new ones after transporting these settings in PRD.

Thank$

srinu_s1
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If i take another order in VA02 ,its allowing me to save the order ...whether the customer is same 

Based on the above statement clearly says that either you document was released from credit or customer might have paid the over due amount hence system allowed to save the document hence you were able to see the document in VA02.

And more over why you want to block the document once the order is approved?

Based on your setting with out approving the customer system will not allow to save  the order in VA01 ( bcz in OVA8 you put B(error message).

Thanks,

Srinu.

jpfriends079
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Clearly in both case the error is due to "OldestOpenItem".

As that is active with reaction maintained as B - Error Message.

In addition to that you don't have any value maintained in "Days oldestItem". For system, it will consider that as 0 Zero. Which means "Number of days the oldest open item can be overdue" is zero.

Further, you have "Max.open.item %" as 100%, but, in same time "NoDays openI" is 0. Don't you think it contradict itself for "Open Item" credit check behaviour.

So, can you share what is the expectation out of this configuration and what you are trying to achieve?

Thanks, JP

mithu_mukhejee
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Hi Srinu ,

My scenario is :

Customer is over due .

1. New oder will not be registered

2.Existing order can not be modified & saved .

srinu_s1
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I do agree with JP,

Usually along with Static or Dynamic check some other checks (ex open items ) are checked.

But in your case both checks were not ticked.

In your case system will only block the order only when the customer payment is over due.

Let us assume your payment term is 1 month. until then customer can take the deliveries beyond the customer credit limit.So that could be 500% or 600% credit limit of customer.System will not block the order even though credit limit is exceeded.

So in my opinion you should have checked at least static or dynamic along with other checks

thanks,

Srinu.

mithu_mukhejee
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Thanks JP sir ,

What shall i do plzz suggest me .

My requiremnt is if customer is having overdue ( may be out of 20 document showing in FBL5n,one is only overdue ),in that case also the new creation of sales order should be restricted ( which is now happening in my system)

Secondly i need the same if somebody modifying the existing sales order ( may be changing terms of payment or something ) ,which should not be allowed.

jpfriends079
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Generally, based on you current configuration shared. System should first consider Horizon maintained FD32 for the customer. If that is not maintained, system will consider Horizon maintain in OVA8 which is 2 M in your cases. So, I assume you don't have individual horizon maintain in FD32 and system picks 2 months. Therefore, system will not consider any open sales order beyond 2 Months.

So, compare the sales order creation date for the overdue open sales order which is already created with current date based on horizon. Whether, that overdue sales order lies within horizon period.

Thanks, JP

jpfriends079
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For credit check due error due to "terms of payment". Then maintain "B - Error Message" for "Critical Field".

Thanks, JP

moazzam_ali
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Customer is over due .

1. New oder will not be registered

2.Existing order can not be modified & saved .

Shumi sap sd

1. is achieved with your settings.

2. can be acheieved by making message number V1166 as error message. For this you need to take your ABAPER's help. System will not give error message on old orders until you convert this warning message into error in program LVKMPF10 which is not recommended. Or may be your ABAPER can give you better idea on this if you check this program with him.

What I would recommend is that dont do anything else with credit check and system will block old orders if user changes quantity or price and its net value increases. All old orders will be processed and new orders will have error message.

Thank$