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PO which was created automatically by GR doesn't have information of Output Determination

Dear Experts,

We think the following senario.

1) Entry Goods Issue by using T-cd:MIGO (moving type:101 without PO number)

2) PO is created automatically by GR

3) SO is created automatically by IDOC which was generated by PO.

But PO doesn't have information of Output Determination and IDOC was not created.

Is this normal action of SAP ERP?

And we specified Confirmation Control on purchase inforamtion master.

But PO doesn't have Confirmation Control.

Is this normal action of SAP ERP, too ?

When we created PO manually, PO have information of Output Determination

and Confirmation Control.

Best Regards,

Kiyofumi Tanaka

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  • Posted on Jan 08, 2014 at 08:55 AM

    I actually a bit wondering about this requirement in general.

    if you create the PO automatically with a GR, then this is usually done to save the effort for PO creation. Certainly you had already communicted with the vendor, otherwise he could not have done a delivery to you.

    Why would you send the output of such automatically created PO from GR again to the vendor? Wouldn't this eventually lead to a double delivery?

    If you create SO via IDOC in this case, then I am again questioning what you are doing with this sales order after the fact?

    Do you really start the business in SAP with a GR, and all processes will be done subsequently in SAP ? This means that you are not using SAP as efficient as it could be. Especially as you are skipping the P in ERP .

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  • Posted on Dec 27, 2013 at 06:09 PM

    Use of confirmation control is to track the materials Progress from the Point the vendor acknowledges the delivery date specified by you, or the vendor notifies you about the shipping information like :

    Receipt of purchase order by vendor (acknowledgement),Expected date of delivery the goods ,Expected date of goods dispatched from the vendor end

    (Acknowledgement or inbound delivery) .

    So having the confirmation control key determined for the PO generated automatically by MIGO does not make sense to me. Since in this case, the goods have already been received.

    The same could be said for Output messages , you output the PO to the vendor when you want him to send you materials at a particular price according to a Particular schedule.

    In your case , you have MIGO automatcially Create the PO AFTER the goods have been received.

    I'm curious as to how is your PO triggering an IDOC for sales order ?

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    • Former Member Mehmet Ozgur Unal

      Thank you for your reply.

      When I created PO manually, IDOC(ORDERS) was created and SO was generated automatically.

      And because SO also had information of "Output Determination", IDOC(ORDRSP) was created

      and PO received ATP information into "Confirmation" tab.

      When only PO is generated automatically by GR, PO doesn't have "Output Determination" and

      "Confirmation Control".

      For conformation, I checked points which you adviced on your reply.

      But there are not problems in master and configuration.

      Regards,

      Kiyofumi Tanaka

  • Posted on Jan 06, 2014 at 10:24 PM

    Please find my comments below.

    we think the following senario.

    1) Entry Goods Issue by using T-cd:MIGO (moving type:101 without PO number)

    2) PO is created automatically by GR

    3) SO is created automatically by IDOC which was generated by PO.

    To work above scenario you need to do configuration to generate Automatic Purchase Order after you do goods receipt...Search in Forum you will huge information on this

    But PO doesn't have information of Output Determination and IDOC was not created.

    You need to configure Output determination in NACE transaction.It is not SAP automatic process.To create sales order through an Idoc then you need to map required field s from Purchase order to Create sales order and the Idoc calling program you need to assign to the output.

    Is this normal action of SAP ERP?

    It is not normal action .It is business requirement which you need to configure .

    And we specified Confirmation Control on purchase inforamtion master.

    But PO doesn't have Confirmation Control.

    Check the PO created with the same vendor ?.Also If it is automatic creted purchase order then no need of confirmation control key as you already receipted the qty.

    Is this normal action of SAP ERP, too ?

    When we created PO manually, PO have information of Output Determination

    and Confirmation Control.

    You are doing reverse process and check the document type which you creted purchase order is same or not or anything missing configuration side ?.

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    • Former Member

      Thank you for your reply.

      Today, I confirmed the following.

      1) I created PO manually again.

      2) IDOC(ORDERS) was created and SO was generated automatically.

      3) IDOC(ORDRSP) of SO was created and PO received ATP information into "Confirmation" tab.

      About same vendor and material and organization as 1)

      4) I created GR manually and PO was generated automatically.

      5) The document type of 4) PO was same as 1) PO.

      The number of purchase information is same.

      (This purchase information has "Confirmation Control")

      6) 4) PO didn't have information of "Output Determination" and "Confirmation Control".

      And so IDOC(ORDERS) was not generated.

      7) I opened 4) PO by using T-cd:ME22N.

      PO had information of "Output Determination" and didn't have "Confirmation Control".

      I saved 4) PO.

      8) IDOC(ORDERS) was created and SO was generated automatically.

      9) IDOC(ORDRSP) of SO was created

      and PO received only SO number into "Confirmation" tab.

      About NACE transaction, I didn't have any problems.

      Regards,

      Kiyofumi Tanaka


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