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Make to Order without PP

dawoodkhalid
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Hello,

In a make to order scenario, how can we run cost estimate and track actual costing on individual orders where MM and SD module is working but not PP (i.e. no BOM, Routing or work centers available).

N.B. The data for the BOM is available from legacy system.

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former_member220721
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May be you can look at option of using Unit Costing for the sales orders. (Sales Order Unit cost estimate)

dawoodkhalid
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SK D

would you please elaborate your suggestion; the way how to do this?

former_member220721
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/90/ba6de5446711d189420000e829fbbd/content.htm?frame...

See the points under heading "Use".

However, I think there are certain limitations with unit cost estimate - may be you can go through this and its sub nodes which explain how to create the unit cost estimate and check if it suits your situation.

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former_member220721
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Hi Dawood,

You can create unit costing for different types of orders.

See below link where it says how to create unit costing for sales order. Similarly you will find it for production orders, process order and so.

In the same screen you will find option to enter different kinds of item categories and post the value against them.

Creating a Unit Cost Estimate for a Sales Order Item - Cost Object Controlling (CO-PC-OBJ) - SAP Lib...

You will have to use a costing variant suitable for unit costing - as suggested by Srinivas in one of the above replies.

Thanks.

dawoodkhalid
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Hello,

When i am going to give the Material it gives the following error:


Consumption account cannot be determined

Message no. CK322

Diagnosis

Automatic account determination could not find a consumption account with the following criteria:

Chart of accounts            : CSHG

Transaction                  : GBB

Valuation/acct modification  : 0001/

Material/valuation class     : 000000000001400050 /7920

Procedure

Check the Customizing settings for account determination.

When i am going to give the internal activity category then it captures all of the expenses planned over the activity type, how to proportionate it as the same activity of the same cost center is used for the multiple orders.

And how to give the OH if we want to enter them manually? Which category need to be selected?

Former Member
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Hi,

Give the details as per GBB in OBYC settings.

Also, to update overhead details use "G" item category in Unit costing.

BR, Srinivas Salpala

dawoodkhalid
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There is no "G" item category available as shown above.

Former Member
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Hi,

Choose from the main menu in KKE1, Functions>Calculate Overhead, it will reflect Item Category "G" automatically based on your overhead settings.

Keep the cursor in an empty column where you want to mentioned Overhead details and do as above mentioned. It will calculate OH based on the costing sheet.

BR, Srinivas Salpala

Message was edited by: Srinivas Salpala

dawoodkhalid
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Sorry for late reply, thank you both of you, i am gonna check it and let you know accordingly

dawoodkhalid
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Dear Rajneesh/Sk D,

In KB21N; it require a cost object which is used in repetitive manufacturing (according to my knowledge; please correct if i am wrong). We need to track the service charges as the client is in process industry and so no concern for the material cost and therefore taking the materials on Free Of Cost basis. All of the orders have different requirements and the may be long for week or for a year.

I think my requirement will be fulfilled through the @SK D suggestion. Would you please guide me on this (unit costing) or let me know any other workaround?

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Hi Dawood,

Usually in engineering industry - design state Unit Costing will be used because of non-availability of proper material structure. Below are the steps for Unit Costing:

1. Configuration: Define Costing Variant for Basic Planning Object (T-code: OKKO and costing type should be 2)

2.  Front end: Create Base Planning Object (KKE1): Give all the details with status released. Item categories are selected based on requirement: M - Material, V - Variable cost, G - Overhead, F - Formula, and S - total;

3. Remove Tick mark for "With Qty Structure" in Material master and "Cost Estimate with Qty Str" in Costing Variant.

Once, you save the unit cost, later marking and release can be done.

BR, Srinivas Salpala

dawoodkhalid
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Dear Srinivas,

According to this, the base planning object is needed to be created every time for the new order; right?

I think the base planning object is used in creating the cost estimate with reference. Our services are different for every order so the referencing is not used in most of the cases.

Where to give the item categories? Is it after creating the base planing object?

What would be the object on which the materials (raw and finished) would be issued (sales order, i guess?)

And how the cost would be tracked on order basis (again, sales order? or there would be any CO order)

N.B. the client is in textile sector , giving services like dyeing, embroidery, printing and embellishment.

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Hi,

Base planning Object is used at very ground level of product and not yet commercialized stage. You ca directly enter the raw material values and other activities details to get the total cost of base planning obj. Later, that base object planning can be used in other orders also. Item categories are used in both base planning obj and unit cost estimate screen.

All the cost would be saved against CO production order.

BR, Srinivas Salpala

rajneesh_saxena
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Dear Dawood

You can use CO production orders also. You can do Goods issue and activity allocation (KB21N) for CO orders. Use KKFI to create CO production orders.

Regards

Rajneesh Saxena