Cloud licenses

[former_member461380]

Hi Folks,

If I'm accessing a webdynpro application which is available through the internet, what are the advantages of putting the webdynpro on the cloud?

The user or customer needs a SAP user license to gain access to the backend for their specific data using webdynpro. If they use a cloud environment to gain access to the same backend, they still have to log in using a SAP user license and now have to add charges for using the cloud resources. Is this true?

Thanks

Bruce

[former_member182650 · Accepted solution]

Hi Bruce,

Expose a system in the cloud, for example with AWS, lets your organization expand infrastructure with a lower tco because there's no initial expenses / invest to prepare a complex ABAP or JAVA stack. It also lets you resize your system depending on your business requirements. For example SAP on AWS, requires maintenance of SPs / Patches because it's a "hosted SAP" in fact. If your organization wants to have a full cloud SAP system without any BASIS task, you must use SAP Business By Design as a complete SAP cloud solution but you will lose the full flexibility of a hosted or on-premise system.

I think ,if you move your existing system to cloud, there won't be any extra user license charges. Let me explain, if it's NW Java Stack, you could configure your user data source as ABAP to user your ECC business users. But this is the same problem that is produced with a NW JAVA on-demand. You must reconsider on every new system, user licenses with or without cloud architecture.

Kind regards

[former_member461380 · Accepted solution]

Thanks for your reply. So that I understand you fully if I have a data center and a full basis team there is no advantage, license wise to move to the cloud and in fact I will incur more expense. There is no group license to access SAP as a backend with transaction capability going through the cloud?

Thanks

Bruce

[former_member182650 · Accepted solution]

Hi Bruce,

I think there's no this license scenario. Ask to your SAP Partner how much will cost you all new business users you will need in this new cloud system.

Otherwise, you must reconsider if your scenario could be licensed by use, for example licensing Gateway could be done by user sessions:

https://store.sap.com/sap/cp/ui/resources/store/html/SolutionDetails.html?pid=0000009470&catID=&pcnt...

Or by cross-system business users:

https://store.sap.com/sap/cp/ui/resources/store/html/SolutionDetails.html?pid=0000009433&catID=&pcnt...

But you must contact to your SAP Partner asking the final price.

Kind regards

[former_member461380 · Accepted solution]

Many thanks Angel,

I wrote a shopping cart based abap application to pull business away from competing software applications which circumvents direct SAP functionality. The dilemma here is direct SAP access from the web involves a regular SAP user license which makes SAP access cost prohibited. I was hoping for a cloud user access to SAP to help eliminate the non SAP software through some sort of group license. I have no SAP contacts as I'm a small programming business to see what else is possible. I appreciate your help and if there is some contact that I might discuss please let me know.

Thanks in advance.

Bruce

[former_member182650 · Accepted solution]

Hi again Bruce,

It's very common one business user (1 user in portal + 1 user in backend) in SAP standard scenarios (for example, employee portal, vendor portal, etc) & SSO between both systems. SAP standard RFCs / BAPIs obtain connected user business data from the user that is logged. This is a good practice because you could reuse and define a complex authorization matrix (department permissions, roles permissions, etc etc.)

In the other hand, if you are not considering this, you could develop your custom apps, your custom BAPIs. All RFC/WebService/oData access from webapp could be done by system user losing all the benefits of SAP standard BAPIs & authorization concepts because all web users will access throught same permissions and you must pass business parameters like customer code, employee code, vendor code, to identify which user is connected to your portal. This SAP code must be mapped to your user account and provided to your custom services.

Kind regards!

[former_member461380 · Accepted solution]

Hi Angel,

There then seems to be a gap in SAP for web business. Each new customer that would like to order using standard program needs a single user license. Every new customer that wants to order now either needs to phone the business and a customer service rep would then have to take an order or add the customer as a new customer. Since the CSR has a single user license they can accommodate many customers. If there is a web user license then any customer can log into SAP from the web and be transferred to a customer specific login screen. Here they would add their specific customer number and password and have access only to my custom program. Does such a setup exist?

Thanks

Bruce

[former_member182650 · Accepted solution]

Hi again Bruce, I hadn't understand your business scenario. If you want to expose an store to your customers, you could use SAP Retail Store or SAP eSelling. It is an standard SAP ecommerce product with shopping cart, product catalog, user selt registration, etc.

Kind regards,

[former_member461380 · Accepted solution]

Hi Angel,

There are several features that are not in those groups and the cost to bring those packages to the smaller SAP installations I am trying to help is far greater than they can afford. Is there a special license that may apply to my situation?

Bruce

[former_member182650 · Accepted solution]

Hi again,

I recommend you ask to SAP Partner if there is some kind of license that applies to this cloud scenario. I suspect that "License by use" model could be the best one for your custom scenario.

Kind regards,

[former_member461380 · Accepted solution]

Many Thanks Angel,

One last question: how do I get in contact with a SAP to discuss licenses?

Thanks

Bruce

[former_member182650 · Accepted solution]

Sorry for the delay, I was on vacation...

Try to get your nearest SAP partner throught this address: SAP - Partner Finder

Kind regards,

[former_member461380 · Accepted solution]

Hi Angel,

Many thanks for all your help.

Bruce