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SAP PowerBuilder Roadmap?

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Thought I'd start a new thread, and hope it takes off with whatever announcement is made today at the Users Group meeting in Germany.

Can someone post an update of the announcement?

I'm assuming something of value will be announced based on this article:

SAP to Announce a New Version of PowerBuilder | PowerBuilder Journal

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former_member190719
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Thanks Bruce!

FWIW: Looks like mostly what we saw presented to the OSUG group in November 2010 - plus a few new SAP twists for PB Classic.

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Thanks Bruce

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Do we know if the 64 bit support applies to PowerBuilder Classic?  As in, will we be able to deploy 64 bit PB Classic applications?

former_member190719
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Yes.  The 32 and 64 bit support applies to both IDEs.

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Great!  Thanks!

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So is PDF generation in classic offically never going to happen?  It had been slated for 15, then pushed back to after 15 when SAP took over.  

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Hi Jeff;

  FYI: This new feature in PB 15 only applies to PB Classic as PB.Net already supports 64bit applications.

Regards ... Chris

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I'm happy to get a new version.

Even if it doesn't come with many features.

What means 64 bit support for us, better performance ?

(I'm not sure to understand why people are so concerned about it)

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Hi Chris.

You are right. We can deploy to 64-bit in pb.net, but there are some limitations related with db connectivity. I wish they will disappear in pb 15. And of course really good news about pb classic or pb native (finally the name will change?)

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Andreas.

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Hi Guillaume....

For me, the most important thing about 64-bit computing is related with memory... Actually the limit is to 2GB for each process. Of course I don't remember to use that much memory in pb classic, but in wpf, it can become very easy... Also I believe it's better to deploy 64-bit instead of 32-bit in 64-bit OS...

Andreas.

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Hi Bruce.

There was any talk about thetime frame concerning the future development for PB? Do we know if there will be Maintenance Releases with some additional functionality for v. 15? Also any speculation about next releases?

Andreas.

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Also I like dockable windows... I saw some articles (I think about 2011), but I want to see it in the beta...

Finally, a question: in the last paragraph you mention support contracts... I thought that this was resolved... We did renewed out support contract one month ago and the plans offered where different...The S-user account that you mention is different that the scn account we have? The beta will be available in scn or not?

Andreas.

former_member190719
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Did you see the PB 15 + and considering section of the blog post?  They talked about some things they are planning on and others they are consideringbut which  they are not committing to put into the product yet.

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Hi Guillaume;

   Actually, performance will go down as 64 bit applications have more overhead from the O/S POV to manage. The only way out of this setback (even when running 32bit on 64 O/S's) is to throw more hardware at the problem to counteract this negative effect.

You are correct though ... application memory limitations will be lifted to a much higher tolerance level. For me though the bonus would be in the way PB applications could utilize 64bit drivers (print, device, DB client, etc) effectively.

Regards ... Chris

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Hi Bruce. Yes I saw it... But for me it was little confusing. Ex: In evaluating, webapp is mentioned, which right now seems to be another product related to SAP UI. It's not clear to me, if they are thinking to incorporate the webapp to PowerBuilder... Also 15+ refers, I believe, to a major release... Am I right? Finally the most important is to have a timeframe - timeline for powerbuilder's evolution, as Sybase was providing. It would be nice to know if we'll have a new release in example each two years... About the IDE's they mentioned which one they would like to stop?

Andreas.

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SAP has a corporate roadmap format and content rules that all products must follow. This will probably give us less information than we are used to with Sybase.

former_member190719
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The original post was just to get some word out immediately.  Have a bit of limited internet connectivity here.  I was also a bit tied up because I was presenting during the full day workshop on the second day of the meeting.  Once I get a bit more time and better internet connectivity I'll update the post.

former_member190719
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Also, this wasn't the official announcement.  SAP will be doing an official announcement soon.  Given that TechEd is in Bangalore next week, I'm hoping they'll do something there.   The official announcement may have more details than what was presented to the user group meeting.

former_member190719
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And here it is.  They announced the PB 15 beta at TechEd Bangalore.  The beta should start around Dec. 15th.

http://www.news-sap.com/sap-increases-focus-on-developer-experience-and-makes-key-open-source-contri...


New Beta Version for SAP PowerBuilder

A new closed beta version of the SAP PowerBuilder application development tool is intended to support new operating systems, databases and open standards and is planned for limited availability on December 15, 2013. SAP is committed to innovation without disruption and with the new beta release, beta customers can use their current investment in applications, knowledge and skills while they take advantage of new SAP innovations.

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That's a great news.

I'm just hoping this beta program is not going to be too limited.

I'd 've thought that after that many years of having not that much from Sybase/SAP, they'd like to have as many users involved as possible.

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Yes .... "closed beta" - what does that mean? 

former_member190719
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That means it's open to current customers, not to the general public.

Software release life cycle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I hope that includes consultants!

In the PB realm - I think that that would account for quite a few more "experienced" users of the product.  

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Hi Bruce.

I saw a post from Sue Dunnel indecating how to register and access the beta.

PS: Thank you for all the updates.

Andreas.

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Former Member
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SAP sent me a copy of this article yesterday, so we know.

The important thing is that PB is going onto the SAP price list, this means a serious financial commitment from SAP for both R&D & Marketing fro at least 8 years.

http://powerbuilder-central.com/index.php/fr/powerbuilder-news-blog/item/493-sap-to-announce-a-new-v...

This should be taken as a very positive outcome.

Cheers

David

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I am excited!

I hope the beta thingy can come up soon and I ll just need to invent a 36 hour day, evaluate the product and hopefully start using it in production.

Pretty optimistic, right?

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Really it’s excellent news for PowerBuilder developer. To introduce PB 15 what is the plan of SAP to move forward this kind of powerful tool. Will it be plugged in with SAP product and
encourage the new developer & company to use this tool in their new development.

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We have a SAP support contract and the PowerBuilder 15 Beta signup showed up on our Product Download page a few days ago.  It did not provide a start date but it implies that it will be soon.

Randy

former_member190719
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Yes, the big issue is that most of us don't have S-user IDs.  That's one of the things holding up the process.  They're trying to find a simple way to get folks set up with accounts that can access the beta.  The beta is ready to go, the stuff they need to work out is more process oriented.  SAP isn't used to doing betas.  Most of their products are larger and they are more accustomed to doing releases by working directly with larger clients to do rollouts to new versions.