QM Different Inspection types with the same Inspection Origin

[Former Member]

Dear Gurus,

We have requirements to have different Inspection types from the same Inspection Origin (in our case, from production - 04).

In addition we will have other system for production execution which will be interfaced to SAP to run MFBF (repetetive manufacturing) to make GR.

In this additional system we will have rules, which Inspection type should be triggered when, i.e.:

1) Every 1000 PC Inspection type A

2) Every 333 PC Inspection type B

So we have also rules, that to Quality stock only some GR should be posted..

So: how we can trigger different Inspection types during GR? Is only option:

1. Go within Interface to material master data, change preffered Insp. type

2. Go to Quality level to change current level to Inspection

3. Make GR?

Do you have any suggestions?

Regards,

Jerzy

[former_member42743 · Accepted solution]

I would set up your different inspection types in the material master and activate all of them.  You can set up for instance two 01's, identical except for the post to inspection stock indicator.

Or you set up three 01 inspection types each with a different plan usage so they can all have their own inspection plans.

Or you can have one inspection type and simply assign plans based on lot size.  One plan for 0 - 300 units.  A different plan for 301 - 1000 units, and another plan for >1000 units.  If you want the material to simply pass through QI use a plan with one optional character and set up the auto UD to process it through with no user intervention.

If combinations of the above aren't enough, look at using the following user exits in influence what you need.

QAAT0001

Inspection type determination different from variant 01

QAAT0002

Control of acceptance lots/goods receipt

QPAP0001	Enhancement - plan reading
QPAP0002	Enhancement for material/plan assignment, plan selection

The exits should allow you to apply whatever logic you want to use to select the inspection type to be used.  (QAAT001) or whatever plan you want (QPAP0002).

Craig

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hello Craig,

Thanks for your answer. In your first solution: two or three inspection types:

You have to manually switch Prefered Inspection type to have different results, am I right?

And can you please describe me this functionality of IP? It depends on GR quantity? What in case we have one insp. lot for one order -> more than one GR for insp. lot.

BR,
Jerzy

[former_member42743 · Accepted solution]

If you activate more than one inspection type for a given material, you would typically assign one of them to be the preferred inspection type.  You use the user exit, QAAT0001 to change it to another inspection type if you need to based on your rules.  You don't have to assign a preferred inspection type but in that case you have make sure your user exit will always determine the proper inspection type to use then.. I.e. if a situation arises you didn't cover in your programming language, your lot might not get created.  I don't know for sure what would happen in that case.

For the inspection plan it would be based on the quantity associated with the created lot.  It doesn't care what is in the order.  If you only receive in 10 units but ordered 50, the plan for 10 units should be assigned.  Not the one for 50. 

Craig

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hello Craig,

I have tested functionality of lot sizes in IP and:

IP is assigned according to first GR done for this Inspection Lot.

Example:

we have Control Inspection Lot set to 'X' - one Insp. Lot for one Order,

2 Inspection Plans, one for 0-10 lot size, and second for 11-999999.

We do first GR for 5 pc from planned order in MFBF - 1st Inspection is assigned.

We do second GR for 10 pc from the same order - still 1st Inspection plan is assigned.

So unfortunatelly it doesn't solve our issue.

For first requirement (different inspection type) - we have solution to make GR from production without inspection and then second movement (copy of 322) to post in QI with different Insp. type based on movement type (this will require user exit:

QAAT0001 Inspection type determination different from variant 01

)

And movment type will be determine by rules in external system.

If you have any comments, feel free to post them
BR,

Jerzy

[former_member42743 · Accepted solution]

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2 Inspection Plans, one for 0-10 lot size, and second for 11-999999.

We do first GR for 5 pc from planned order in MFBF - 1st Inspection is assigned.

We do second GR for 10 pc from the same order - still 1st Inspection plan is assigned."

According to the logic you posted, both lots SHOULD get the first inspection plan.

You would have had to received in 11 to get the second plan based on what you posted.

It still might work as you say, but if that's what you set up and tested, it worked as I would expected.

Craig

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi,

Sorry, maybe I was not so precise.

we have Control Inspection Lot set to 'X' - one Insp. Lot for one Order,

and both GR were done for the same order. So the quantity to be posted on Lot is 15, but original quantity was 5, therefore we have 1st Insp. plan assigned.

BR,

Jerzy

[former_member42743 · Accepted solution]

Ok. now you really have me confused. 

One inspection lot per order is set so why would you have gotten the second inspection lot then?  You must have received in different batches then?

The order qty is 15?  Is that what you mean by "quantity to be posted on Lot is 15,". 

But you received only 5 on the first GR right?  So that is inspection plan 1.

Then you received in 10 on the second GR of a different batch # right?  If it was qty ten, that would also be inspection plan 1.

What am I missing?

Craig

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi,

We are doing more GR per one order. So first for 5, second for 10, etc. And combined quantity is 15 - so I wanted to have different inspection plan for combined quantity.

But ok, we solved this with changing Quality level before each GR (for manual control over inspections) and to other system to control automatic inspection every fixed quantity.

BR,

Jerzy

[nitin_jinagal]

Hi Jerzy,

Do you adopt different inspection practice on both occasions? If not, then why do you need different inspection types ? 

To get inspection lots for 333 and 1000 pcs, you can use DMR functionality for 04 inspection type only and can skip all the inspection lots in between.

This way you get these two pcs in QI stock and can also do the RR and UD.

Rgds,

ntn

[Former Member]

Hello ntn,

Thanks for answer. Yes, we have different inspection practice.

DMR is working only on GRs, not on quantity of GR.

BR,

Jerzy