PIR Vs CIR

[Former Member]

Hi Team,

I am creating forecasts (ie, PIR) in MD61. The PIR will be generated for a material, plant, requirements type, version & planning horizon.

In t.code MD81 (Customer indepependent requirements-CIR), we can create CIR.

Q1: What is CIR? In which business scenario the CIR will be created?

Q2: How the CIR is different from Sale order? In which business scenario the CIR will be created instead of creating the sale order?

Q3; How the CIR & PIR are different? Can anyone explain with some example.

Thanks

[Former Member]

Hi,

Q1: What is CIR? In which business scenario the CIR will be created?

Ans: If user does not authorized with sales tcode, he can use it to create customer order. Or if sales module is not implemented.

Q2: How the CIR is different from Sale order? In which business scenario the CIR will be created instead of creating the sale order?

Ans: CIR will have only customer requirement type with quantity. It does not have additional functions like Availability check.

Q3; How the CIR & PIR are different? Can anyone explain with some example.

Ans: CIR has customer requirement type. PIR has demand management requirement type.

Regards,

Dharma

[Former Member]

Hi Dharma,

Thank you for the info.

Assume below business case:

I have not implemented SD module but i have implemented PP, MM & FICO module. For my FERT item in the material master, i have maintained the planning strategy as 40 (Planning with final assembly).

For planning strategy 40, the requirements type for PIR is VSF & the requirements type for customer requirements is KSV. But i have not implemented SD. So no sale order will be created in the system.

In this case, CIR will act as sale order. The CIR (which is similar to sale order) will consume the PIR. Am i right?

Thanks

[Former Member]

Yes, you will enter the customer requirement type when you create CIR.

Requirement type plays the function to consume the PIR.

Regards,

Dharma

[Former Member]

Hi Dharma,

To simulate / test the planning strategy 40 if the SD module is not implemented, i need to create CIR by manually entering the req type as KSV in MD81. And ATP check CAN NOT be performed in CIR.

But if SD module is implemented, when i create the sale order for this material, system will automatically consider the customer req.type as KSV & ATP check can be performed in sale order.

Q1: I have implemented SD module. For a material "A" (Planning strategy assigned is 40), i have created the sale order with requirement date as 20.10.2013 with quantity 5. Also i have created the CIR for the SAME material with requirement date as 20.10.2013 & Req type as KSV with quantity 5.

In this case, either sale order will consume the PIR or the CIR will consume the PIR?

Thanks

[Former Member]

Hi,

I've not tested above mentioned scenario. Lets wait for our forum experts reply.

Regards,

Dharma

[Former Member]

Hi Team,

Can anyone please guide me?

Thanks

[Former Member]

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[Former Member]

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[former_member184655]

Dear Selvakumar,

Check this thread,

http://scn.sap.com/thread/1125923

http://scn.sap.com/thread/839487

Regards

Mangalraj.S

[Former Member]

Hi Mangal,

Can you please advise on the below scenario?

To simulate / test the planning strategy 40 if the SD module is not implemented, i need to create CIR by manually entering the req type as KSV in MD81. And ATP check CAN NOT be performed in CIR.

But if SD module is implemented, when i create the sale order for this material,system will automatically consider the customer req.type as KSV & ATP check can be performed in sale order.

Q1: I have implemented SD module. For a material "A" (Planning strategy assigned is 40), i have created the sale order with requirement date as 20.10.2013 with quantity 5. Also i have created the CIR for the SAME material with requirement date as 20.10.2013 & Req type as KSV with quantity 5.

In this case, either sale order will consume the PIR or the CIR will consume the PIR?

Thanks

PIR Vs CIR

[former_member184655]

Dear Selvakumar,

As you have mentioned that SD module is in place, then in this case I would suggest you to go

ahead with Sales order and not with CIR.

In my understanding CIR can be created to check and test the scenario's in certain planning strategy

where in the customer requirements are transferred to MRP, where in SD module is not in place.

I'm not sure about the consumption of PIR,whether it gives the priority to the sales order/CIR,but as I

have already mentioned it is not required to go with CIR,when sales order is already available in the

system or SD module is also implemented.

Regards

Mangalraj.S

[Former Member]

Hi Mangalraj,

Thank you for your guidance.

Q1: If we use planning strategy 40 (Planning with final assembly) with the help of CIR, will the CIR also be considered in MRP?

Q2: Is CIR used just for testing / simulation purpose? By creating CIR in the production system, will not have any costing module (FICO) impact?

Note: Assume SD is NOT implemented.

Thanks