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When did coffee corner stop being a points-free space?

I know it has been like this for a while but I missed the change. What was the reason? In my opinion it seems to be encouraging content that is maybe best posted elsewhere. The Coffee Corner used to be a good place to hangout. Now, between all the song lyrics and poetry it is hard to find the interesting content (unless you like song lyrics or poetry, I guess). I can't help feeling this stuff is being posted just to earn points, but I also don't feel able to report it for "points gaming" abuse as the Coffee Corner is "The official space where you can share and discuss any topic that is on your mind."

It seems to me that an "anything goes" space shouldn't be a points-earning space.

Or maybe I'm just in a grumpy mood today.

Steve.


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    Posted on Sep 09, 2013 at 03:19 PM

    With the introduction of gamification to SCN it was not possible to a have a points-free space

    The question was to either to close the coffee corner or allowing points.

    As the place is still there......

    But this decision was based on the experience and content that was posted until that time .

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    • Former Member Thomas Zloch

      Spot on, but complaining does not really help.

      It is just a little customizing switch to turn the idiotic points frenzy off (someone tried it once, incase anyone remembers the points-ice-age in ABAP General back in 2008...) but the points got to dope the SCN's KPI's and delete the memory of those wonderful few days before any action was taken.

      You might as well go and talk to the junkies at the train station about the sense in turning any points related things off. You will get more action from them (a hickup or falling over wins hands-down against what you will see happening here...)...

      Cheers,

      Julius

  • Posted on Sep 09, 2013 at 06:17 PM
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    Hi everyone,

    Juergen is right (as usual!), it is currently impossible to disable points in a specific space, this is a feature not available in the gamification platform. This is an issue documented in the Gamification Known Issues document.

    When we found out about this we changed the Coffee Corner to a read-only space because we wanted to check with our moderators if they thought it would be acceptable that people accrue points and progress towards missions in that space as well. See the discussion (restricted access: moderators and space editors only) that @Jeanne Carboni started at the time in March 2013 as we were preparing for the gamification launch.

    If you think we should reconsider this decision, please let us know in this thread.

    I agree that it's a pity we can't turn off points in spaces where it doesn't make sense to earn points and be recognized as an "expert", e.g. I think the same about the Events spaces although not everyone agrees with me, I know.

    Anyway, I know that Jive and Bunchball are working on this, and the functionality may be available in Q4 this year or early 2014, they are doing some metadata work that would help with this business need.

    Laure

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    • or maybe 40 points are too much for a couple of cut&paste screenshots and a couple of abap instruction even if they are useful!

      +2 points every time I enter to change a comma or correct a word, in the forums you're able to edit your answer and correct this if there are mistakes but you doesn't earn point.

      Regards

      Roberto

  • Posted on Sep 09, 2013 at 03:18 PM

    Grumpy mood or not, I think you are totally right, and kudos for having the guts to start this discussion. I was thinking about it too, but was probably too afraid of stepping on some overly sensitive toes.

    Get rid of the points in Coffee Corner.

    Thomas

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  • Posted on Sep 10, 2013 at 07:20 PM

    I motion to amend the Coffee Corner rules as "no songs or poetry unless they're funny". Or just create a single discussion thread for those and let anyone post there to their heart content - there should be no points given just for that.

    Also does SAP have copyright for the content posted on SCN? If so, perhaps that would cool off our local lyricists.

    For the record - I have nothing against poetry per se, but only as long as it's good.

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  • Posted on Sep 23, 2013 at 02:54 PM

    Thanks for bringing up this important topic. As Laure shared its currently not possible to turn off the points, therefore I think its a valid question if we wish to allow poems and songs to be created here. Also what about jokes? We've traditionally had them on Friday (although I personally need them on Thursday since that is the last day of my week 😉)

    I will raise this topic in our team call but would love to hear more members opinions here, after all the coffee corner is the community's space 😊

    Gali

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    • The problem as I see it isn't the content but that the content earns points and there are no ground-rules here - anything goes. This devalues the point system, at least in so far as people see it as a professional reputation system. If it is intended to be that, then points for poems/songs/jokes makes no sense.

      I don't care about the content. I can unfollow the Coffee Corner space and never see it. That would be fine, except that I care about the integrity of the points system. If I shouldn't, just say so and the problem instantly goes away.

      Steve.

  • Posted on Sep 10, 2013 at 04:59 AM

    I also feel what Steve Rumsby has mentioned in above post. Although i have earned few points on the same Coffee Corner but now i guess it should be points free space.

    Rgrds,

    Jitendra

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    • Former Member

      About 2 years ago there used to be a Top Contributors forum, for the folks with the most points. We took a vote in there about getting rid of the points system in itself. If I remember correctly it was 160k points in favour : 0 against.

      But noooo.... the silly points remained and no one ever did anything about it, so the forum died a slow apathetic death as well.

      Cheers,

      Julius

  • Posted on Sep 10, 2013 at 05:47 PM

    So if the coffee corner is part of the SCN "all or nothing" gamification, would it be possible to set up the coffee corner in its own Jive platform using the SSL like the Idea place is? Could it be set up in the idea place, ( I don't think there are points there), and then simply linked to from SCN? In that manner it would look like part of SCN but still be outside of it.

    FF

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  • Posted on Sep 11, 2013 at 03:57 PM

    Thank you for bringing this up, Steve!

    I'm absolutly for stopping the gamification for this space, as the copy-paste-poetry and -lyrics are flushing the whole thing. It is a place to share stuff, but I, too, have the feeling, that mosts blogs aren't about sharing, but about getting.

    I like the idea of having one thread, where everyone can post those things (if they still like to then ^^).

    @Laure Cetin wrote, we should voice our wish to stop the points in the Coffee Corner here (if I understood it correctly), but wouldn't a poll or a idea in Idea Place easier to follow the votes? But maybe I understood it wrong and the moderator-thread was meant. 😊

    Regards,

    Steffi.

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  • Posted on Sep 23, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    Just want to let you guys know that wiki points will slowly be reduced to be more aligned with blogs and documents. @xMoshe Naveh (Old Acct) can provide more information if necessary.

    And I voiced my opinion about points in the coffee corner in this other thread.

    Laure

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  • Posted on Sep 24, 2013 at 06:42 AM

    I have opened a poll on this topic, please vote.

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