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Reg.Issue in Reversing Production confirmation

former_member305655
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HI,

I am facing an issue while cancelling the production confirmation.

My scenario is

In Material master i have adopted quality inspection on receipt from production.

Now i did production confirmation to an production order which resulted in 101 and 261 movements and posted the stock to QI stock by creating an Inspection.

Later i did usage decison and moved stock from quality to unrestricted. After that i found the production order was wrongly confirmed. So i wanted to cancel the production confirmation.Immediately i did production confirmation cancellation which only recorded 262 and instead of 102 it capture in COGI with error as the "You cannot reverse the GR,Since the Inpection lot is already partly posted".

I understand to cancel the production confirmation first i need to bring back the stock form Unrestrcited to QI then i need to cancel the confirmation.

Can you guys tell me the right steps to do reversal of inspection lot and then the production confirmations.

My FG is batch managed.

I am new to QM so can you please share me the detail step in cancelling the Inspection lots.

Regards,

MBN.

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former_member305655
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HI All,

Thanks for your replies. But i need few more informations.

Method 1- Cancelling the UD then production confirmation reversal.

For reversing UD we need to implement note i understand then we need to do MB31 to reverse the production confirmation. This is the correct practice. If we follow this all the links to the orginal and cancelled documents will be available in system.

Method 2- Reversal of production confirmation without cancelling the UD

In this method wee need to link Inspection setup 08 in Material master.Then we need to do 322 mov in MB1B which will move stock back from Unres to QI stock.Then we need to do production confirmation reversal in MB31 with move 102.

The concern in method 2 is there will not be any conectivity to the original document and the cancelled one right. If we are ok for that we can go for method 2 without implementing the SAP note.

Correct me if my understanding is wrong.

Now i am coming to my doubts.

I tried Method 2.I connected inps. type 08 to material master. Then in MB1B i did 322 which moved stock from unres to quality.After that i tried MB31 there i end up with an error

"Change the inspection stock of material XXXXX in QM only"

Can you guys clear me that what i did was correct process or am i missing some steps.

In Material master for 08 i gave settings as Create Insp.lot for ech material doc and Q score as - Results from UD.

When i did MB1B for 322. It generated an Insp.lot.

Is it really required to create Insp lot for even reversals? If so then what settings in MM master for 08 to be done.

I am new to QM can you guys please explain me the method 2 process with detail transactions?

Regards,

MBN.

Former Member
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Hi,

You should follow the first step only. As per my knowledge second method it won't work for you.

I remember long time back i faced the same issue and we implemented the note we will able able to resolve the issue.

Thanks,

Rajesh

rupesh_brahmankar3
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Hi MBN,

You need to implement SAP Note 175842

As a result of which you get a program RQEVAC50 in system, give inspection lot as reference.

System reverses the stock and posts back to quality inspection you can do this in SE38.

Now if you try to cancel 101 material document (production reversal) through MBST, system will allow you.

or

Go to MB31 Input production order and opt for 102 movement  Enter Select the stock type as unrestricted.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

former_member208398
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Dear M BN,

You will not be able to do the reversal in the second method that you are using.

When the production order was confirmed, you will note that the quality lot that was created has a reference of the order. So, if you try to reverse the same, system needs a quality stock that has this production order tagging, not just any quality stock.

The way it works perfectly, is the implementation of note 175842.

It will revert the inspection lot status to SPRQ (stock posting required) and when you reverse the GR, the lot will automatically get cancelled (status LTCA). The COGI record is also settled.

However, if you do not want to implement note 175842 (as you wished so), there is a work-around but you will have to delete the COGI record, it will not be automatically adjusted.

Go to MIGO, select Goods Receipt Order (A01 R08), enter the order, and manually change movement type to 102.

In the 'where' tab, you can manually change the stock type to unrestricted from quality and post the same. But as I mentioned earlier, the COGI record will not be settled.

Repeating once again, note 175842 is the best choice in this scenario.

Best Regards,

Rajen

former_member242092
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Hi,

If you want to reverse quality you have to implement above note - 175842 as above mentioned.

Now about your second point - 08 inspection type is used for stock received through STO. And if you use this inspection type, system will create another lot - what you will do with that lot.

Just go to MB31/MIGO with movement type 102 against your production order and select the stock type unrestricted as Rupesh says.

Your production qty will reverse. And for raw material, that is you have already reversed. Now you can do production confirmation in same production order once again.

Regards,

RP Jaiswal


former_member305655
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HI,

I have few queries. I have implemented note 175842.

I have a doubt in step3 given in the note

Step 3

. Use transaction OMJJ to enter further entries in level 'Allowed

transactions' (table T158B) for transaction code 'QA11' (Record Usage

Decision). The movement types for which these entries must be created

are derived from the system settings for the goods movements for the

usage decision (table TQ07M): You must determine the reversal movement

type for every movement type that is entered in table TQ07M with the

key VMENGE01 - VMENGE09, and you must include the relevant entry in

the above-mentioned table. You can use the T156N table to determine

the reversal movement type: You can enter the movement type (BWART)

and function code (FCODE) ST to determine the reversal movement type

(BWART_NEXT). For missing entries, the system issues error M7 096

'Goods movement not possible with mvmt type &'.

My question is in OMJJ we need to link movement type 322 to the Transaction QA11 in allowed transaction.

second is how to maintain the reversal movement types in Table - TQ07M?

Is it done by the technical consultant? if so how it needs to be maintained. Now i checked the values in the table i don't find any 322 movement in it. so how it will be added to the table.And moreover i see only VMENGE01 to VMENGE07 and not VMENGE08 and 09.

Kindly advise.

Regards,

MBN.

Answers (5)

Answers (5)

former_member305655
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Hi All,

Thanks for your replies.

If i follow the steps as sugessted by Rupesh and Rajen by posting an 102 mov  in MB31 or MIGO my production stock will get reversed and simillarly i can do production confirmation to the same order again.

But my doubt over here is by doing so will there be any mismatches in the doucments which got posted namely Insp.lot, UD and material documents.

Mostly will there be any impact on the costing part to that Production order? Because earlier we are following the correct process in production confirmation but later we are reversing it by bypassing certain activities.

Kindly throw some lights.

Regards,

MBN.

former_member208398
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Dear M BN,

I will try to explain as far as my conception goes:

But my doubt over here is by doing so will there be any mismatches in the documents which got posted namely Insp.lot, UD and material documents.

I think the stock flow is explainable: GR -> Quality Stock -> UD Posting -> Unrestricted Stock -> (UD posting Reversal, that you are not performing) -> GR Reversal. Now if you are not performing the UD reversal, in QA32, you will find two lots (one is going to be generated again when you will perform confirmation later) against your production order (one of them should have been cancelled).

Mostly will there be any impact on the costing part to that Production order? Because earlier we are following the correct process in production confirmation but later we are reversing it by bypassing certain activities.

If we look carefully, we are not bypassing any activities that may impact the costing (the UD stock postings do not have any accounting entries, there are exceptions like transfer to another material etc.). The generation of the 102 COGI originated from the confirmation reversal, thus reversing the actual postings of material consumption and activity postings (the debits have been reversed). I would suggest to go to the cost view of the production order in current situation and have a look at the actual posting column. Are they showing 0,  i.e. has the confirmation reversal reset the actual cost postings?

If yes, then the only reversal you needed to take care is the GR posting reversal. If you perform that, that entry should also be reversed (excluding the case, when you are posting the reversal in a period when your standard price of the assembly has changed).

Best Regards,

Rajen

former_member242092
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Hi BN,

You will be able to see only that lot which system will create after revise production in same production order or same material in QA32 - If you select Select only inspection lots without a usage decision not previous one which you have already cleared for your current unrestricted stock.

Now go to COOIS/CO03 - List - Documents goods movement - production order - Execute

Check your 261 and 262 entry, similarly check same for 101 and 102. If everything is OK then dont worry about the cost or any other miss-happening.

Regards,

RP Jaiswal

rupesh_brahmankar3
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Dear,

Please refer OSS note 175842 - Inspection lot: Reversal of goods movements from UD

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

former_member242092
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Hi,

Please go through below link if you want to reverse UD first.

http://scn.sap.com/thread/1892184

But if you want to reverse the GR only then use t-code MB31/MIGO with mov. type 102 against production order.

Regards,

RP Jaiswal

dejoy
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Hello M BN,

Please check threads already discussed this matter.https://scn.sap.com/thread/2016388 and http://scn.sap.com/message/6966610#6966610

Regards,

Former Member
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Forgot to give you scn link: http://scn.sap.com/thread/1998661

Former Member
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Hi

Please check the below link - It would be useful to you.

Also check SAP notes: 175842 and 33924

You have to make a seperate transaction which would reverse the stock posting from unrestricted to quality.