CATS Integration with HR,PP,PM/CS,PS

[Former Member]

Dear Friends

Can you please tell me how to Integrate CATS with PP module. I don't know what input fields I need to maintain & also we are using CATS in ESS. for that I've already created a profile & called it into the portal. But how can we do Integration?? I've seen few t-codes where the cats data is getting transferred to PM/CS,PS,CO,HR. but none of them has showed me a t-code or table which is related to PP module. we are now integrating CATS with HR,PM,CS,PS & PP modules. It would be very helpful if you can suggest me with the best solutions.

Regards

Pradyp

[Former Member]

Hi Folks

Thanks for your prompt replies, But I was expecting more information regarding CATS with PP module. I just wanted to know more that in which table the data stores & what kind of actions I need to take care of. In my present scenario my client don't want to transfer data back to PP module. where as in std we have the t-codes to transfer to all the modules, except PP. moreover pls tell me what changes i need to do for maintaining data entry profile, I've integrated CATS with travel mgt, and I can input the trip number in R/3 screen. But in Portal the Trip field is getting in display mode. the trip number inserted in R/3 is getting displayed in portal but its coming in display mode only. please find the below attachments.

Hoping that I get best solutions

Regards

Pradyp

[Former Member]

Hola lamentablemente no se como se integrar catts con pp pero me gustaria saber como integrar ps-hr, por favor

[former_member244310]

Which language is this? Could someone possibly translate? I would like to know what is the answer given by Nidya

[Former Member]

Language is Spanish. Hello unfortunately not as catts pp integrate with but I would like to know how to integrate ps- hr , please

[Former Member]

Holla,

Need to maintain the IT 315 only nothing else.

[former_member244310]

Hi All

I dont know why SAP has not provided CATS integration with PP. I have a lot of customers asking for this functionality. I hope someone can share ideas on a workaround to achieve integration of CATS with PP

reg

HR

[Former Member]

cats can be 'indirectly' integrated to PP. I have come across some scenarios in my past experience so if you are able to explain the business requirement, I may be able to point out how cats and pp can be integrated....

cheers

[former_member244310]

Hi Ganti

I need to record Employee work time against production orders in CATS timesheet in CAT2.

Then I need to transfer that time to Production orders, as partial confirmations on a daily basis.

I will also be using an user exit by which I will update the Price Field in the CATS sheet with the rate based on the the salary master. Based on this rate, system should calculate cost & then post it against PP orders. So the actual time & the actual cost should be captured in the PP order.

I do not wish to use the Activity Type rate which is defined in KP26 for actual cost posting. The Activity Type rate will be used only for Planned cost calculation

thanks

HR

[Former Member]

ok here goes lets take things one at a time:

I need to record Employee work time against production orders in CATS timesheet in CAT2.

Then I need to transfer that time to Production orders, as partial confirmations on a daily basis.

Hmm partial confirmations sounds very much like you want to book time against PM-work-orders mind you there are differetn terms used for this service entry sheets,.. maintenanc eoders etc...  so yes you can book time against these and these will generate partial confirmations but I believe you are looking at PM here not PP,.. and if it is indeed PP you need then you need to sit down with both a PM as well as PP consultant and work out the integration.

I will also be using an user exit by which I will update the Price Field in the CATS sheet with the rate based on the the salary master.

Question: are trying to get the salary cost of employees via cats here or are we trying to capture the cost of work performed by the employees? there is a huge difference here you know?

If it is the first,.. then payroll does exactly that based onthe rate at which the employee is paid, be it hourly wages or salaried ... and that is already posted to finance att he end of payroll cycle.

Now if it is the second : well here is my understanding: planned costs are according tot he activity rate and number of planned hours,..  while the actual costs would be calculated with the actual hours posted multiplied by the activity rate.. so i do not see the need for a user exit here as all the aforementioned is possible in std sap.

let me give an example: I am an employee who is paid at the rate of say 50$ an hour, salaried, with no OT as per my employment terms. Now I deliver consulting services to clients of the organisation I work for. My organisation could be billing these customers at the rate of say 120$ per hour for the services I render,.. and there might be other charges based on weekend work or over time or whatever,..  in this scenario, my company would run payroll for me every pay period,.. to get my "salary' costs,.. while I book time against specific 'projects' in cats using activties,.. which will result in the generation of a billing document that will be invoiced to the clients I deliver work for,.. and financially this will become 'revenue' for the company I work for...

so what is it that you are aiming to do here in cats?

As for the rates of the activities themselves: I have seen them being andled in different ways, a recent energy-client of mine had a list of all activities performed by employees in the organisation sub-divided by nature of work et al ,... and the management accoutnants perform an annual budgeting excercise where the rates are revised and uploaded into sap against respective cost centres,.. and are made available for the employees to book time against in conjunction with other plant orders/wbs stuff,..

So given the above you may want to sit down with the fico guy as well as the fi-business  guys to discuss whats what.

Based on this rate, system should calculate cost & then post it against PP orders. So the actual time & the actual cost should be captured in the PP order.

please see above point for this.

I do not wish to use the Activity Type rate which is defined in KP26 for actual cost posting. The Activity Type rate will be used only for Planned cost calculation

I believe you may want to go this way, after you have finished analysing the above mate,.. and Imean it in a pragmatic way,...

Let me explain: last Iworked on something similar tot he above, I had an excellent supply chain architect who had a very clear understanding of the entire end to end business processes (high level to the very minutae... grass root level), as well as the understanding of the cash-flow scenarios/requirements.. and without that expertise to leverage on, my project would have been doomed..  so whlst i still do not profess end to end expertise in this area,.. I know where to get help from and ask the right people with the right skills for it.

Hope the above stuff helps mate,..  I am given to these ramblings when I get touched on my fav subjects ...

cheers

[former_member244310]

Hi Ganti

I have worked as a PP, PM & PS consultant in SAP implementations.

I know how CATS works with PM & also PS . I also know about Service Entry sheets with CATS.

I only need to know how one can confirm PP operations through CATS. I would like to capture time in CATS against PP order. While posting, the costs & also the time should also get captured in the PP order. (This is possible in PM & PS, I know how it can be done.)

Ganti, you have said that you have experience in integrating CATS with PP. So maybe you can tell me how to achieve it. Please focus your reply on how You have achieved the functionality in PP only.

HR

[Former Member]

Hi Ganti

1)I've same scenario with PP what hanumanth was having.

2)I've successfully transferred PS data from CATS.now my PS consultant is asking for a new fields

"Remaining Work Hours"

& "Final Confirmation"

which I've enabled in CAC2 Data entry Field, but I could not see that in CAT2 screen. Please tell me the reason with solution

3) I've inputted the data in CAT2 related to PM module (Controlling Area,Act type,Work center, Plant & working days with hours) & released the data. now in CAT4 I've also approved it. but when I'm transferring the data to PM module I'm receiving a msg "No records to Transfer to PM/CS". please provide me a solution on above 3 points.

Awaiting for your Valuable Inputs

Regards

Pradyp

[alvaro_garca2]

Hi,

You said that cats can be 'indirectly' integrated to PP. Can you please give me an example?

Our scenario it’s very simple.

1. In CATS entry profile, besides other fields, we must provide an entry field, probably Internal Order (RAUFNR) or use one of the free additional fields, to record employee hours in a weekly bases;
2. After release and approval process we must send this information to PP;
3. We must enter those hours in PP through CO11N.

Thanks in advance

Regards

Garcia

[Former Member]

Hello Pradyp,

Unfortunately SAP does not provide a connection from CATS to PP.  The PP orders are not available to the CATS processes.

If you need to integrate PP with HCM time management processing you will have to find another method or look to incorporating PP speocfiocally to CATS functions using user exits (or some other type of in-house development).

I believe that integration to HR can be managed using order confirmations from PP or incentive wage functionality.  It has been quite a while since I have looked into this integration, but that is what I remember.

CHeers

[Former Member]

pradyp:

integration of cats to the rest of the modules is pretty easy from a config perspective. check tcodes cac1 and cac2. especially the second one which gives you a list of fields available within catsdb for settings/date entry et al..

the difficult part is getting your head around the business processes which require this intergation and designing the time entry/validation/transfer processes in cats to enable those business requirements.

Good luck mate,...

cheers

[former_member184702]

Adding some tranx here,

Cross Application Time Sheet

CATS_DA - Display Working Times

CAT2 - Time Sheet: Maintain Times

CAT3 - Time Sheet: Display Times

CATS_APPR_LITE - Approve Working Times

CAT6 - Transfer External -> Time Management

Thanks

Siva

[former_member184702]

Hi Pradyp,

CATS to HR -- > create a attendance / absence  type in sap backend and call into cat2, check the table CATSDB table or CATSD sturcture.

CATS to PS ---> create a wbs element in CJ20n transaction code , and should be release than only it will work. call this wbs element into cat2.

that means , if the resource is booking the billable hours and should be select the wbse and A/A.

check the table CATSPS.

CATS to CO -- > create activity type KL01 is the transaction and provided by CO guys, actual cost will be transferred to controlling.

check the table CATSCO for further information.

CATS to SD , MM : -  create a sender cost center, orders all the stuff comes under this two modules and provided by sales team and procurement team.

check the tables : CATSMM and CATSSD tables. Check the tables CATSPP for prd planning,

check the some transaction codes.

CAT2 is the employee time sheet.

CATS_APPR -- approval TS

CAT5

CAT6

CAT7 -- controlling

CAT9.

Thanks

Siva