on 06-27-2013 10:03 AM
Hey all,
Thanks experts for all your reviews , i think as oracle data guard is something which is controlled by DB it has less dependency on SAP.
Shanaka.
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Hello
The Oracle data guard configuration is independent of SAP Kernel and the SP level.
Also check these SAP notes and Oracle links:
Note 105047 - Support for Oracle functions in the SAP environment
Note 1619242 - BRARCHIVE and Oracle Data Guard
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/B19306_01/server.102/b14239/concepts.htm
http://www.oracle.com/us/solutions/sap/wp-ora4sap-dataguard11g-303811.pdf
Regards
RB
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Hi Michael,
from my experience everything greater than 10.2.0.4 is pretty good. Oracle 11g R2 has some nice (hidden) surprises for us as well (e.g. "_deferred_log_dest_is_valid").
What about Oracle 12c? Anybody else exploring it as well? It is a pretty nice one, hopefully SAP will use several features now and do not strip it down to its minimum.
Regards
Stefan
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/features/availability/dataguardoverview-083155.html
I have heard that you can now commit on the standby side when the redo data is in memory (instead of writing it to disk first) -> sync configurations will have a smaller performance impact then. The example on a customer test database showed 17ms commit time versus and 9ms.
Cheers Michael
PS: i cannot identify a real killer feature on 12c so far, they seem to have just steadily improved what was there in 11g. Multitenant databases, ADO sound nice, but probably not for the SAP world. I look forward to the RMAN single table restore though
Hi Michael,
> I have heard that you can now commit on the standby side when the redo data is in memory (instead of writing it to disk first)
Yes this is true and called "Fast Sync" nowadays. Official 12c R1 Documentation "1.5.6.3 Fast Sync":
Data Guard maximum availability supports the use of the NOAFFIRM
redo transport attribute. A standby database returns receipt acknowledgment to its primary database as soon as redo is received in memory. The standby database does not wait for the Remote File Server (RFS) to write to a standby redo log file.
However this attribute was also available (and working) in the previous Oracle releases, but you needed to set it manually. Oracle 11g R2 Documentation: AFFIRM and NOAFFIRM
> I cannot identify a real killer feature on 12c so far, they seem to have just steadily improved what was there in 11g
In my opinion there are two "killer features" in the Data Guard section. Cascading standby database support for DGMGRL and Oracle "Active Data Guard Far Sync" (in combination). Now you are able to build up SYNC DG scenarios over long distances without a huge performance impact and manual interaction (like the need of a "full cascading standby database") or third party (WAN-)accelerators.
Multitenant databases can be very useful in SAP environments (just think about the time for Oracle upgrade cycles in large SAP system landscapes), but as always it depends on SAP and their will to use all of that stuff. I totally trust in Dr. Christian Graf and his team to identify such benefits and use that features in the future.
Rock on
Regards
Stefan
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