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Derivation of Profit Centre ISSUE while posting FB70

Hi All Experts,

I am posting one FB70 document in system I am getting below error :

When I have given PC ideally it should accept the assignment given for line item ! Why it is still throwing error ? ( We have CO-PA activated )

I have below assumptions : ( I may be wrong.... )

  • When you are giving PC in line item system should consider PC as for revenue element and allow to postings....
  • In above transaction posting when I am clicking on Profitability Segment button and clicking on Derivation system is populating some derivations maintained and allowing postings.
  • In this case why derivation is NOT done automatically ? Why I need click on derivation ?
  • Does it happens with all CO-PA implemented systems ?

If my understanding wrong please correct me. Experts guidance would be great on this.

Regards,

Sharu.....

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  • Posted on May 29, 2013 at 05:18 PM

    Hi Sharu,

    Please do not give Profit Center on the line item, click on "Profit.segment", there you give Profit Center and then try to post.

    Please let me know if in case of any issues.

    Br,

    Vivek

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  • Posted on May 30, 2013 at 03:07 AM

    Please go through the below.

    Note 208652 - Error message KI 166 for debit position w/ cost center

    If the GL 900010101 is a Cost element in CO with CE category 11 or 12, the below will helps you. Also, check the OKB9 settings once for this GL.

    Enter a true account assignment object with revenues

    Message no. KI166

    Diagnosis

    You made an account assignment for 376000, a revenue element, in

    controlling area 1000 to a cost center or profit center.

    System Response

    Cost centers and profit centers can carry revenues in the SAP system as

    statistics only. To ensure reconciliation between FI and CO for revenue

    element 376000, a CO account assignment object must record the revenues

    as a real value. This object type is used for updating to the

    reconciliation ledger.

    In principle, it is possible for the SAP system to automatically derive

    this CO account assignment object, the reconciliation object. However,

    all postings made in CO for costing-based Profitability Analysis are

    logged in the reconciliation ledger under "reconciliation object". In

    this manner, the reconciliation ledger identifies the exact values

    flowing into the operating profit. If you post reconciliation objects

    during revenue postings to cost centers or profit centers, you must do

    so while keeping the interpretation of the reconciliation ledger reports

    in mind. The sums of revenue postings to profitability segments, cost

    centers, and profit centers cannot be broken down further.

    Procedure

    o To avoid posting to reconciliation objects, make account assignments

    to a real CO account assignment object.

    o If you want to post to reconciliation objects, you can change this

    message to a warning or a note for future users, or deactivate the

    message entirely. Use the Implementation Guide under "Controlling:

    General" and choose Change message control. Enter area KI and

    message number 166. If you do not enter an individual user here, the

    change is valid for all users.

    Thanks

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  • Posted on May 30, 2013 at 08:23 AM

    Hi Sharu,

    When I have given PC ideally it should accept the assignment given for line item ! Why it is still throwing error ? ( We have CO-PA activated )

    I have below assumptions : ( I may be wrong.... )

    • When you are giving PC in line item system should consider PC as for revenue element and allow to postings.... >>>>>> You can derive default profitability segment through OKB9 settings. It generally profitability segment found and updated in profitability segment when corresponding document will sender such material postings / Finance direct entries posting. It is system standard behavior ,you have to enter required data in profitability segment and click on derive button ,if you want to post document against profitability segment. You can use derivation rules to derive the same through KEDE.
    • In above transaction posting when I am clicking on Profitability Segment button and clicking onDerivation system is populating some derivations maintained and allowing postings. Yes it is standard behavior

    • In this case why derivation is NOT done automatically ? Why I need click on derivation ? Standard behavior
    • Does it happens with all CO-PA implemented systems ? Yes

    Read documentation ,it may help you

    Note 790759 - FI posting: Profitability segment and partner profit center


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  • Posted on May 30, 2013 at 09:39 AM

    Hi Sharvari,

    Please have a look at your COPA customisation for all of your queries. A Characteristic group might have been assigned to that GL Account (or business transaction / value field, etc) and the Characteristic group must have contain some mandatory values to be filled in the document. So when you post a document, those field are also to be filled up as a part of COPA requirement. Hence you have to either input it manually or the system can derive it if you click on the Derivation tab.

    Please execute t-code ORKE and check the various customisation such as Structures, Flow of Actual values, etc and KEDR for derivation rules for the details.

    Hope it clarifies your query.

    Thanks & Regards

    Ramesh

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    Posted on May 30, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Hi Joshi,

    Instead of profit center give Cost center then check.

    Regards,

    Surya.

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