Promoted candidate to be demoted

[venkateshorusu]

Hi Experts,

As per company policy employee got promotion in the month of april and he got paid salary in the month of april,may based on his promotion level but now they want to demote that employee to earlier grade as well as they want to recollect the amount which has paid to employee based on his promotion.?

Could you please provide me some solution.

Thanks

Venkatesh

[Former Member]

Hi

Venkatesh for group of employees use lsmw or we need to develop custom program

Thanks

Satish

[venkateshorusu]

Hi Experts,

Addition to above i have a doubt on payroll area,

As per company policy few employees got promoted non management to management level with effective date from 01.04.2013.

scenario is,

For those employees who promoted non management to management payroll has been processed for the month of april,

now they want to chnage their pay scale group,pay scale level and payroll area with effective date from 01.04.2013.

when i executed the action and tried to change payroll area in 0001 with the effective date from

01.04.2013 system showing an error payroll area change is not possible due to irregular payroll run.

How can i handle this please provide me solutions.

Thanks

Venkatesh

[Former Member]

Can you check first control record and dates  for that payroll area

if you want to change only IT -0008 data you can copy and for new record change the dates

Thanks

Satish

[former_member185000]

Hi Vekatesh,

Since the payroll has already been run and posted, and the effective date 01.04.2013 whcih is falling in the mid of payroll period. You can make changes only  effective from the next pay period start date.

If you want to change the pay scale level or pay scale  area, then you can copy IT0008 and you may give effective start as 01.04.2013. So, it goes back and retroes the payroll calculations.

You may run the action organisation re assignment where when you change the position from management to non management, IT0008 will be triggered based on the inforgroup setting, so you can change the pay scale group & levels.

Thanks,

Madhav.

[venkateshorusu]

Hi Sathish,

My control record status is 01 2013 i.e 01.04.2013 to 30.04.2013 is in exit payroll status.

Hi Madhav.

you mean to say that based on action i can change pay scale group and pay scale level in the info type with effective date.

0001 organizational assignment i want to change the payroll area with effective from 01.04.2013.

system is not allowing to change that(you are saying that mid of the payroll and pay roll process which has been executed for the month 01.04.2013 so we can not change),so that i have to change payroll area in the next period 01.05.2013.

But my concern is if i change payroll area with effective date from 01.05.2013

my records which are not similar right, 0008 basic pay record valid from 01.04.2013 with new basic pay values and org assignment 0001 pay roll area record is valid from 01.05.2013 with new pay roll area

so whether is it impact any other next pay roll periods and results.?

Thanks

Venkatesh

[former_member185000]

Hi Venkatesh,

Change payroll area from 01.05.2013 (your Control record says that the payroll ran till 30.04.2013.) so, you can change the payroll area effective from 01.05.2013. So, when the next payroll runs, the payroll picks the new payroll area for this employees.Based on the payroll area if there is pay scale change need to be done, copy IT0008 and maintain pay scale level , pay scale group etc from 01.05.2013. So, your records would be identical.

While changin It0001, copy IT0001 and enter new start date as 01.05.2013 and save the record.

If you are running any orgnaisation re assignment action, the infortypes 0001 & 0008 would trigger based on your infogroup setting as i mentioned earlier.

So, maintain the records accordingly and execute a run and see the changes.

Becareful with the impact of these kind of changes as these are payroll related changes.

Thanks,

Madhav.

[venkateshorusu]

Hi Madhav,

Thanks for the immediate response,

You are saying that maintain both records with effective date from 01.05.2013

But employee got promoted with effective date from 01.04.2013, i want to pay increased salaries with effective date from 01.04.2013 only.

but only my concern is how can i change payroll area with effective date from 01.04.2013

am unable to maintain this record with 01.04.2013.

let say now this is may month

they have announced that with effective date from 01.04.2013 few employees got promoted non management to management.

now i want to revise the pay scale structure of respected employees with effected date from  01.04.2013.

i executed promotion action action when changing the payroll area with effective date from 01.04.2013 it has not accepted because payroll has been processed.

but i want to maintain it with effective date from 01.04.2013

is it possible or not.?

Please tell me.

Thanks

Venkatesh

[former_member185000]

Hi Venkatesh,

As per my knowledge, if you are trying to demote the employee, you may run a personnel action (organisation re assignment) where you can assign the previous position which he was holding prior to his promotion. Accordingly all the necessary changes will happen and the pernr will go back to his previous position, Work schedules , payments and other benefits etc.

If you would like to demote and retain the same position from the date where the employee has been promoted, maintain the same date and it runs the retro for these changes.

However, to recover the already paid amount, you may deduct the April & May months through a deduction wage type ( something like salary adjustment) in regular pay periods through IT0014.

Since, it is the mistake from business end, it should not impact the employee and the recover should be done in phases.

Thanks,

Madhav.

[venkateshorusu]

HI experts,

Addition to this i want to execute this action for few employees,doing this activity for an every individual employee takes a lot of time it is time consuming process, how can i do this for a group of employees at a time.?

Please suggest me.

Thanks

Venkatesh