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Home..Home on the [Community] Range...

I recently dug into the beta archives looking for this previous thread concerning Site Inconsistency, and figured it would be worth dusting off the question again concerning where you enter the community, or what you'd define as your 'Home' starting point when opening a browser and entering the SAP Community.

For some additional musical inspiration I will offer this sing-along version of the cowboy ballad 'Home on the Range', because I am of the opinion that the community GOAT would prefer to frolic with the buffalo, deer, and antelope...where seldom is heard a discouraging word...

When not arriving in the community from an email notification link, my most frequently used browser bookmark is to the coffee corner, where I typically need to force a login, before catching up on the latest discussions, after which I explore the activity feed or pursue random acts of seeing what's going on in my followed tags.

Curious to hear about your community home and patterns as they exist in today's world of the SAP Community!

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  • Apr 03, 2018 at 03:50 PM

    My bookmark leads me to the Activity stream (I'm kind of nostalgic) only to jump from there to the q&a main page and using my followed tags to filter and check for interesting questions. After that it's straight to the Coffee Corner.

    • Apr 03, 2018 at 05:24 PM

      Thanks! I hope my archive link brought some pre-launch nostalgia to your day and not nausea ;)

  • Apr 03, 2018 at 04:14 PM

    I tend to start on the Notifications page and deal with those first. In the old days (Jive), I started with the "home" page to see the big picture overview of what was going on, and I think I should really start doing that again, as I know there have been improvements there to highlight blogs and so forth.

    • Apr 03, 2018 at 08:37 PM

      Oh, so the 'M' icon means moderator first and not just a monogram for your first name, lol. Even in the old days I didn't visit the home page too often, and stayed a little myopic in my areas of focus, but since I had lunch with Jerry Janda today I had reason to visit the page to see the April MoM feature that I otherwise would not have known about.

      • Apr 03, 2018 at 08:39 PM

        You definitely did not want to miss this month's MoM feature. Jerry's wit and witticism shines in his own unique way. ;)

      • Apr 03, 2018 at 08:42 PM

        since I had lunch with Jerry Janda today

        Stop trying to make the other members jealous, Jeremy. You know how popular I am.

        • Apr 03, 2018 at 10:07 PM

          Tagging yourself in your own reply? Even popularity may have limits in the Activity Feed ;)

          • Apr 03, 2018 at 11:40 PM

            Ha! I copied and pasted it, not realizing it would @mention me. I even got a notification that I mentioned myself. Makes sense, as I am my own biggest (and perhaps only) fan.

            • Apr 04, 2018 at 12:39 PM

              Well if it makes you feel better, the last email notification included a subject line of "Jerry Janda commented on your comment", so we're all seeing double. #jerryfanclubforlife

  • Apr 03, 2018 at 05:18 PM

    I know Capra appreciates your consideration :-)

    I sometimes force a logon, sometimes not. Otherwise, I go to my followed discussion tag and then back to the 'home' page for browsing blogs. And of course, Coffee Corner.

    I don't have any notifications set up, and I don't use my activity stream, which I would change if there were Status Updates.

    • Apr 03, 2018 at 08:43 PM

      We are creatures of habit I suppose, but it is always nice to see the patterns and use cases for our distinguished community guests :)

    • Apr 07, 2018 at 06:30 PM

      What is she drinking? May I recommend a nice bottle of Goats do Roam:

      Image result for goats do roam

      Or if the fancy strikes for a Rose, how about Le Goats Blush

      Image result for le goat blush

      Or perhaps a nice bottle of Love my Goat

      Image result for love my goat wine

      • Apr 07, 2018 at 08:26 PM

        Mike Pokraka You just made my day.

        I think Capra is open to any and all wines, but clearly, you've picked some of the best!

        • Apr 09, 2018 at 12:38 PM

          It would be quite entertaining to see Capra brandishing a corkscrew to open some Bully Hill...

      • Apr 09, 2018 at 01:18 PM

        The "Love my Goat" model clearly had one glas (or bottle) too many... :D

      • Apr 12, 2019 at 01:24 AM

        If you ever want a fascinating story about the issues of names and trademarks, go to the Bully Hill website and find out how and why that winery got it's name. Although I do not drink alcohol myself, I have relatives who do and I buy from there knowing the history (and it also happens to be pretty bully good). It also happens to be within easy driving distance of where I live so that helps a lot.

        Disclaimer - I do not work there, nor work for them, nor contract there, nor own any stock in them - I just happen to live near it and my relatives like it. I have, however, owned goats at one time and they are awesome at getting rid of pesky fast spreading invasive plants (read: Japanese Bamboo) and I miss having them around.

        And as for my starting page, I prefer my dashboard page as my starting point.

  • Apr 05, 2018 at 06:37 PM

    Take Me Home, Country Roads seems to be more appropriate for SCN as it can be a journey. :)

    Usually I start on the "nuclear winter" home page. It's probably just out of habit since there is very little information available and it never logs me in. I'm probably still hoping to see some changes or something new there. But so far it's only gotten worse (e.g. today "top liked" blogs disappeared), so I really should just stop doing that.

    After the visit to the home page tombstone, I open either the Coffee Corner (using the menu) or a browser bookmark for ABAP Q&A, depending on the mood and how much time I have. That usually logs me in, so I also open a second tab with Notifications and check if anything needs a response.

    If there is time left then I also check RSS feed for blogs.

    • Apr 05, 2018 at 06:54 PM

      A quick search for 'sky' with a photograph filter made it easy to find the stock image you refer to as 'nuclear winter'. Perhaps more descriptive than the official name in our image repository of: 'ID 281762' :)

      I did notice the GDPR announcement above the top liked blogs, so perhaps they needed a brief timeout for the banner to appear below the skyline, but glad to see that the widgets are now populating, and I also noticed that Paul Hardy is giving Tammy Powlas some competition in the Mentor blogs list :)

      Thank yous for sharing your community entry point and exploration methodologies! I came here as a result of the notification email you triggered with your comment.

      • Apr 05, 2018 at 10:17 PM

        Hm, there are no "top liked" for me. It used to be Mentor blogs, then Top Liked (or Popular?), then Latest [of all blogs]. Now it's Mentors, ABAP, HANA:

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        • Apr 06, 2018 at 12:03 PM

          I'm seeing Latest Mentor, Most Liked, and Most Recent in the top row, so whatever Jerry was mentioning on Twitter seems to have been fixed, or at least being worked on. With the 'nuclear winter' on the horizon, I suppose it's always there to keep us on our toes as to the dynamic changes below...

          • Apr 06, 2018 at 12:37 PM

            You don't even need to @mention me. Just type my name and I show up. (A word of caution though: Don't say my name three times while looking in the mirror...unless you're eager for some sort of Candyman experience.)

            But, yeah, as I said on Twitter...there had been some problems with the feeds that caused the middle and right columns to come up blank. We added ABAP and SAP HANA while we got the other feeds sorted out. Now everything is fixed and Most Liked/Most Recent are back.

            Which means we can look forward to complaints about ABAP disappearing...

            • Apr 06, 2018 at 06:52 PM

              Well, it would be rather nice if we had more than just 3 feeds there and if those feeds could be personalized (gasp!). E.g. I'm an ABAPer and I'd want to see ABAP blogs. Someone else might want to see HANA or even Business Trends (LOL).

              Of course, we can get that with an RSS feed reader but I thought we were trying to attract more visitors to SCN. If I've mistaken then home page might as well just say "Use RSS feed to see the blogs and the black menu of death to navigate. Peace!" Imagine all the maintenance savings on this one.

  • Apr 06, 2018 at 10:37 PM

    I usually got URL straight to activity feed like Steffi as I want it to be like it was in the Jive days.

    If I'm in an interacting mood (or no child climbing over me as he's recently discovered the keyboard), I'll click on may favourite tags and try to work through answering every question that I can

    My hopes of the activity stream is to help me to discover new followers as someone in my network comments on a question or blog so I go there and see who else is around

    I then clear notifications and hop over in Moderation console if required

    After that I'm over in Coffee Corner as it's up there with Status updates and the need for a chuckle

    • Apr 09, 2018 at 12:33 PM

      Thanks for sharing your perspective Colleen, and of course the fun fact about your computer savvy son ;)

  • Apr 07, 2018 at 06:41 PM

    I'm usually in a 2 minute break mode or on public transport or similar so I go straight to the ABAP answers tag. No shortcuts, typing is quicker (type "ans" and my usual browsers already autocomplete the ABAP tag URL for me).

    From there I may flick through other favourited tags. If I have more time I hop over to blogs or coffee corner.

    I don't use the activity stream much as it's full of spam of people liking 4 year old blogs and the likes and I get annoyed at having to filter it each time - especially on a mobile.

    • Apr 09, 2018 at 12:36 PM

      Hi Mike - I agree with your disdain for the noise in the activity stream, and it's almost counter intuitive to follow more people or tags as it only further clouds the water. I had to apologize to Jürgen L in the past for spamming him with too many Fiori related activities that were his penalty for following me...

      • Apr 09, 2018 at 12:56 PM

        I guess the problem is bigger for anyone who is following me and I could understand if people would decide to unfollow me to make their activity stream more useful.

        The past was brighter, you could follow a person and opt out from their posts under certain tags.

        • Apr 09, 2018 at 01:28 PM

          As tempted as I am sometimes (when you are in full moderator mode) I would never unfollow you! ;) I'd rather ignore the AS until it (or you :D) calm down. *g*

          People I follow liking stuff is great. But I also get shown the likes of people who I don't follow (because they like content in tags I follow), so that's an issue. :/

          • Apr 11, 2018 at 04:28 PM

            Hm, I'd like to but I can't follow - so you don't like to see the likes of folks you don't like?


      • Apr 09, 2018 at 02:13 PM

        Actually I tried to use as my primary feed it since this thread and ... I'm sorry but either I'm missing something or I can't see how folks on this thread manage.

        The problem: Noise. I can filter by blogs or Q&A and it's pretty much what I want. When I refresh the filter disappears. I give up, it's quicker and less frustrating to just go straight to the relevant tags.

        • Apr 09, 2018 at 04:51 PM

          I've lamented a few times that if the Activity Type filter and Followed Tags filter were multi-select friendly, I could choose blogs and q&a (ideally this would persist for my profile) to exclude all of the social and profile noise. From there I could optionally filter down to tag(s) of my choosing for further refinement, which would take the members followed/follower out of the equation and focus more on tagged content.

    • Apr 11, 2018 at 02:15 PM

      I have not even looked at my activity stream for months. Only if I run out of any other things to do and have some time to kill (which hardly ever happens) then I go to Activities to check 1-2 pages. After that I usually feel like looking outside at the people walking to their cars on the parking lot is much more productive and entertaining.

  • Apr 11, 2018 at 04:34 PM

    FWIW, given the real low number of questions under the tag I'm primarily interested/experienced in, my starting place is usually here. Seems like I'm not doing much real work here...

    • Apr 11, 2018 at 08:14 PM

      Thank you for sharing your interaction model Volker - I am hopeful that your efforts are providing you some well-deserved karma (points) or a new mission badge or two :)

  • Apr 11, 2018 at 09:00 PM

    When I open my Chrome browser, it opens 12 tabs of the web pages I use the most, although some are much less frequent these days (include Helmut Tammen 's old navigation app and the AH based hybris wiki site). Probably ought to clean up a few of the default sites loaded.

    The first four tabs are Notifications (AS), WP Moderation Dashboard, SAP Messages (DMs), and my Moderation Queue. I use all of them, but mostly the Mod Dashboard and the Mod Queue. I clean out my Notifications every one or two days, but occasionally read an Editorial Comment by someone who I don't generally recognize (I sometimes will read some familiar Moderator's comments, but only with some spare time). Otherwise, unread DMs are shown on the Messages tab, Moderator Queue items are in the Moderation Queue (both MA'd and premoderation items).

    I stop into Coffee Corner weekly. Sometimes it's more frequently if I am interested in a particular conversation. I also have a default Jam Group (Strategic Advisory Council) open, but just use that as a starting point to clear my Jam Notifications.

    As others have mentioned, Activity Stream has no value (as full of useless junk as Baltimore Harbor was in the late 70s). I go there, maybe once a month just to see if it has improved. So far, the answer has been negative.

    • Apr 11, 2018 at 10:13 PM

      Thanks for the insight into the normalcy of your daily grind with the community ;)

  • Apr 12, 2018 at 07:43 AM

    I rarely go directly to SAP community. I use a Feed Reader (feedly) or get into it via a tweet on twitter. These are the feeds I'm following with feedly.

    This approach has mainly two reasons.

    • In feedly I also subscribed to other areas of interest (general news, e-mobility, sports, general IT news, nodejs, javascript, GraphQL,, ...)
      With a feed reader I have a single point of access and can have a quick overview about all news in my interested areas.
    • I haven't found a good starting point in new SAP community yet. As already mentioned the activity stream is not very valueable for me. To be fair I have to say that I also used this approach with the old SCN.
    • Apr 12, 2018 at 12:47 PM

      Currently, I often just start at , but I also use RSS-Feeds (I use RSSOwl) a lot. With that I start with the first interesting Blog I find there.

      • Apr 12, 2018 at 01:26 PM

        Thanks for the insight Joachim - I guess Jelena isn't the only one who frequents the nuclear winter page ^^ :)

    • Apr 12, 2018 at 01:29 PM

      Thanks Helmut - the rationale seems logical, but mixing sports and work sounds too much like oil and water...

      I also appreciate the added insight on the activity feed and that your approach wasn't necessarily changed (+ or -) since the launch.

  • Apr 12, 2018 at 12:53 PM

    Q&A Business Warehouse, then forward to Coffee Corner.

    • Apr 12, 2018 at 01:31 PM

      Hi Mario - thanks for weighing in on my question, and of course for your regular community contributions in the BW tag!

  • Oct 17, 2018 at 12:25 PM

    Inspired by the recent Deep Thoughts blog by Michelle Crapo I am nudging this CC post back onto the radar, because I am intrigued if the TechEd UX/UI released changes have altered anyone's approaches or made their community site experiences easier and therefore better.

    • Oct 17, 2018 at 03:51 PM

      HAH! No, it's worse and more complicated.

      I mostly come to the community through links from emails that I get from the tags I follow. However, I don't always get emails about all of the questions, so I had bookmarks to take me to each of the tag "communities" I'm interested in. None of those bookmarks work any more - they just go to the generic "Communities" page that doesn't yet have all of the communities on it. So now I have to go somewhere else to find the list of tags I'm following and click on each one to see if there's anything new. There's a fairly limited number of people answering questions in these tags (SAP BI Platform, SAP Crystal Reports, SAP Crystal Reports for Visual Studio) so I'm still committed to struggling through it and answering questions, it's just aggravating that it's getting worse, not better.

      These are technical forums, NOT social media, but SAP seems more focused on the "gee whiz" and marketing they can get from it rather than on making it usable. Grrr!

      • Oct 19, 2018 at 07:56 PM

        Hi Dell, I've heard similar comments from others but my old bookmarks still take me to the question list in the specific tag. Here is my bookmark for the ABAP tag Q&A, for example:

        I'm wondering if you bookmarked a different format or if it just happens with the tags that have already been a victim of some recent "topic pages" transformation.

        • Oct 22, 2018 at 02:52 PM

          Yes, and ABAP is one of the most popular tags- it was part of the first list of things that were converted. I hang out in the BI Platform (SAP Business Objects) and Crystal reports areas, which are much lower priority.

    • Oct 19, 2018 at 08:02 PM

      Yeah, I'll take the fifth on that, Jeremy, thanks. :)

      • Oct 22, 2018 at 02:53 PM

        Yeah, I will take a fifth also. Make mine bourbon instead of wine (aka what the goat sells!). After fighting the good fight for years, it is time to hang up the gloves.

        Lost my M, job, and most of my interest. Check into MII and TM once in a while, but seems like most of the SCP, SAPUI5, and Fiori questions have been asked and answered many times before. Not worth even opening very many of them from my email notifications.

        Stopping into CC maybe once a week and seeing if anyone has updated or sent me a DM, but that is it. Still tracking the daily traffic, but not much else. Not bothering to Alert Moderator anymore. It seems to be a useless exercise as pretty much anything is accepted these days. Stick a fork in it, I am done with almost any of the technical side of coming here.

    • Oct 21, 2018 at 09:02 PM

      Sorry to report the changes have had quite the opposite effect for me. I've gone from 'hate it but persevere' to 'can't be bothered fighting it anymore'.

      Used to log in first thing in the morning, now maybe at lunchtime, if that. I used to enjoy my 2 minute microbreaks in Q&A and that was my main starting point. Nowadays I read the odd blog if an email alert looks interesting, flick through the Coffee Corner, maybe skim some Q&A in the evening.

  • Oct 17, 2018 at 12:41 PM

    So I'm nuclear winter too - I usually start here Sometimes I come just to answer questions and then I bookmarked my most used question tags. Lately I've been trying to answer more of them.

    Of course the page has changed since this started - no more winter. I have to admit I miss the most liked blogs. But change is good. The search is front and center. Of course, I never use that. Google is BFF. :) It does take me to question/answer area very quickly.

    • Oct 17, 2018 at 12:57 PM

      Nuclear winter - LOL. I remember lamenting during a review session (perhaps I was simply talking to myself) about the search bar and header consuming approximately 50% of my vertical screen. I rarely search, and when I do, it is more likely on Google too (wow - I'm thinking about the Dos Equis commercials and that SCN meme blog that resurfaced recently)... I am happy that we have more horizontal width of the screen being used - wide screen monitors also celebrate this enhancement.

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