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[Status Update] It happened, stumbled on my first Millennials blog in new community

It was a matter of time that the Millennials would be put back in the business trends spotlight

Has the next generation entered the workforce yet to take focus of us?

I better go install my favourite apps: snapchat and instagram

Was I born in the wrong generation?

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Oct 28, 2016 at 03:38 AM edited Oct 28, 2016 at 03:39 AM
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Kind of a sign that everything is getting - slowly but surely - back to normal . ^^

I throw Periscope into the mix!

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Periscope... I think that was an arcade video game I use to play in the vestibule of the local Block Department Store when I was walking home from Junior High School.

Geez.. are there any terms in that sentence a Millennial would even know??

  • arcade video game - Nope - Only in museums
  • vestibule - Maybe... but maybe not.
  • Block Department Store - Nope - Long gone
  • Walking home from school - Nope- did Milennials ever walk?
  • Junior High School - Nope, now Middle schools
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  • Phone booth
  • Mimeograph
  • Carbon copy

Just a few that popped into my mind.

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Hey now, I've played a good number of "arcade video games" in my time - mostly in the local pizza parlor - AND even walked home/biked home from school!

Signed,

Your local friendly millenial

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uphill both ways in the snow?

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And dig this - there is no voting on the blogs and no more rating. So either you like it or... you like it. And if you don't like it you cannot say what you really think about it in the comments ('cause that would be unprofessional and - in my case - mostly censored). At the same time your view still counts as KPI for the said blog.

But don't worry, Colleen, everyone gets old eventually. No one cares about our generation anymore, but the good thing is we don't care either. If we believe what we read about the Millennials, losing the spotlight might be more painful for you guys. :)

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I find it hard to believe that many Millennials behave in the way media pictures them. Somebody, probably from a different generation, observed a few kids in a single country, with similar cultural background and drew conclusions. And because a huge part of publishing nowadays is copy/pasting from each other, with no original research or understanding the topic - you get the idea how this myth became a thing.

I am somewhere in between two generations and I can't recognize myself and people around me in any of these stereotypes, which seem to serve purely marketing purposes.
Are we living on the same planet?

Arcade games - no, there are none in my home town anymore, but kids do play video games. Not a big difference, really.
I am not sure what Block Department Store is, my niece and her friends spend a lot of time in the mall - this is probably similar. I used to do the same, at her age, it was just a different building.
Walking home from school: there is a school nearby, many older kids still walk home. Only the little ones, if they finish late, are picked by their parents, because the area is not as safe as it was 20 years ago (more car traffic). In Denmark I have seen that all generations combine biking with public transport. Maybe this 'no walking' is some cultural thing, valid for USA - no idea.

As to the blog about FOMO - kids in our family never suffered from such syndrome, we have a rule: if you want something, which mommy and daddy have decided not to get you, you need to earn the money first by getting a job.


And there are places in the world, where for the price of an iPhone you can feed a family for several months and this is about your salary for 3-4 months, if you are fortunate to have a job, so... reading about the enormous purchasing power of young people and FOMO... seriously? What was that word... empathy?

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LOL - I had to look up the term FOMO in the urban dictionary!

Yes you're right, maybe the image of millennials is mostly a US thing. But unfortuantely I think the US has driven this social media thing to start with, (for better or worse). And I can only mostly relate to the millennials I meet here in the US.

So Arcade games.. not the same as video games. At least there was a more social connection to people then. They weren't played online in the confines of your parents basement. We had to go outside of the house to play them and we often met friends and new people at the arcades. (some of those new friends maybe not of the good variety!). There was an actual face-to-face socialization around them. And we had to pay to play each time!

I know in EU, especially in certain countries, there is more walking and biking to school then US. Today, very liittle in the US.

And yes, many in the US are not familar with some of the poverty experienced in other places. Or can't really truly empathize with it. Can they really when they have no reference? You can't really empathize with it if you can't believe it. And some of the poverty you see on TV is so bad, most people here can't comprehend it. Would an isolated tribeperson in New Guinea actual believe in a cell phone? X-rays? MRI's? Probably not until you actually showed them. They have no frame of reference.

The majority of our population never travel to a foreign country. (Sorry Canada, I'm not counting you as foreign as we share way to much history and culture). And when they do, its primarily to the 'good' tourist spots. Not the bad places. Even though we get like 200 channels on cable, most people get their news from a handful of US media outlets. Not really of their own fault or doing. Farmers, factory workers, etc.. are not actively seeking out the BBC, Al Jezeera or other internationl outlets for a different opinion. Why? Most have no hope or chance of going to or experiencing foreign lands. Most folks here are like others elsewhere around the world, they are just trying to get by the best way they can and make the best life they can for their families. What is happennng over 5000 miles away is not really very high on their day-to-day issues.

They have zero hope of driving two hours or taking a train for a few hours and crossing a border to another country. It takes 3 days of almost non-stop driving just to cross this country. They have little opportunity to vacation in another country unless they fly. They have little chance to experience another culture or even practice or use another language other than English. With limited holiday for most workers, (For most it takes 10-15 years of employment just to get 3 wks a year.), there is not time for travel abroad when they need to use 3-5 days just for travel time there and back home. And airfare for a family is not possible for the majority of people except for maybe once or twice in their lives. And then not abroad. The US is extremelty culturally isolated mostly for geographic reasons.

So no, many don't realize that an I-phone can feed a family for months. Or at least can't empathize with that because their world is based on their local reality and references. Where a cell phone is now almost a minimum requirement of daily life. Email is a minimum requirement. No connectivity is a death knoll for your career. School students are required to have a laptop or I-pad. Their frame of reference of poverty is defined totally different than in other countries. Should the individual be blamed for that? Should the US millennial be blamed for that when that is the world they grew up in? I don't know. It's just how it is.

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I also had to look up FOMO in the dictionary (either I am too old to know these terms or my English knowledge is not good enough).

For video games - I still see kids going to each others places to play games together, but it happens mostly for XBOX/PS ones. No big computer game clubs anymore... :(

I am kind of surprised if US citizens really cannot sympathize at least a bit of some of the poverty or inequality: to a lesser extent, it is there in the USA as well, if there is some truth in Last Week Tonight with John Oliver.

I can't blame the young people in US for not understanding fully poverty or inequality - not everybody has the chance to see its horrors with his own eyes, but I somehow expected a broader view from people, publishing in an international website. Nowadays, you don't even need to travel physically to learn about different cultures - one can watch documentaries, read newspapers, books.

I read articles about Millenials mostly for fun, I don't take them seriously, just like I don't believe in horoscopes, but look at them from time to time.

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I agree Veselina. People COULD learn more. Especially those that are well off here. And yes we have poverty. But I don't think you can even begin to compare the poverty we have to the poverty in some countries, like India, Africa, South America, the Middle East, Asia, etc..

But again, the vast majority of the US population are working too much and have too little free time to be concerned with much outside of their own town/village/state. What free time they do have, they want to spend it with their family and doing activities to decompress. Not reading even more depressing stories about people half a world away that they feel they have little ability to help. They can't even imagine that even a few dollars would help someone overseas becasue they can't relate to a few dollars helping them or fellow citizens in a significant way. And lets face it, many folks feel we have enough poverty and issues to resolve here first.

Unfortunately I'm to the point where I take almost nothing printed, hard-copy or digitial as true and I take video information as being truthful even less. :-( I'm becoming a very cynical old man!

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In the US, it is very easy to become completely insulated from the people who are not as well-off as you are. I live in a subdivision where only people with certain level income could possibly afford to live. Stores, movie theaters, etc. around here - you'd only see the same middle class folks. If anyone tries panhandling in our town, the police will quickly escort them out. I know there are some places that look like ghetto but I don't go there. A freeway that takes me to work goes right past them. And now that we got rid of cable TV I'm not even bothered by those pesky "for the price of a cup of coffee..." commercials.

Back in Latvia I lived in the city and poverty was visible everywhere. Of course, now people live in gated communities there too, but as soon as you venture out you'll see it. Here I could live my whole life and believe everyone in the world is like me. There are not too many incentives to find out otherwise. But I keep hearing that Millennial are not like that and they care about stuff. I guess we'll find out if that's true. As a Gen X'er, I was born cynical. :)

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Craig, your post is 10x more thought provoking and interesting than all those SCN "Millennial blogs" combined.

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Thank you Jelena. I am nothing if not controversial!

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Apparently, the Millenials are also “non-employees”: https://blogs.sap.com/2016/10/31/changing-guard-wholesale-distribution/

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Not just the Millennials, we all are :)

Not news, unfortunately; read that in another blog here...

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You made me read a sales pitch before my first coffee. -.-

We are non-employees? I thought that term only is for workers, that do your work, but do not belong to your company. You know... outsourced stuff and helps etc. But what do I know? And since when is this new? Outsourcing or hiring help for a specific time and/or project is around for a long time. Why is this again a millenial thing all of the sudden? They just throw a new name on an old... whatever.

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Yes, this is really not the Millennial thing, but the truth is quite ugly. There has been a trend going on specifically in the US to reduce the full time workers mostly to avoid paying any benefits. As you know, we don't really have government health care, so medical insurance is usually provided as a benefit by the employers. But the cost have been going through the roof (people blame Obamacare but in reality the reasons are much more complex), so companies are looking for ways out. Hiring contractors or part-time workers (30 hrs or less per week are not eligible for benefits) makes this possible. Of course, reducing "golden parachutes" for executives could provide health coverage to tons of employees but it's such a boring subject. Much easier to slap the Millennial label and then blab about how SAP software solves everything.

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Maybe USA is a little bit behind other countries in that... the same has been going on in my country for at least 15 years. There is another trend, which I observed, I am wondering if this happens in other countries as well: instead of hiring young people with less experience, companies employ retired persons (of course, if they are qualified and if the job does not involve hard physical labor). For retired people you don't need to pay so much taxes and benefits, because part of that is already covered by the government; you get qualified workers, who are willing to do the same job for lower payment (they still get a pension) and your company looks good, because you give senior citizens a fair chance to live better and communicate with 'normal' people (dad tells me retirement is stressful).

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My father retired 7 years ago, at 56, after 42 years of work.

His former employer (a big, BIG and i mean BIG, multinational) asked to stay a couple of years more (he entered as simple worker and ended up as workshop and production manager).

He need less than 1 day to reply with a laugh and "no thanks" and he never regret it, between gransons, fishing and gardening :)

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I haven't noticed this in the US as a trend but it's probably because social security pension is very small. Mostly you have to save for your own retirement. So if seniors work it's usually out of necessity.

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And... a 'Thank you' to Jelena: I finally browsed through a few pages of recent blogs (not just the BT ones) and found some good and useful content.. It was not so scary after all to get out of Coffee Corner. :)

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I won't check out the blogs, until I can filter by tags and/or there are more than 10 blogs per page visible. Too much click'n scroll for my taste at the moment there.

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Yes, I know, I still miss the welcome page.

In the past I used also the people I follow to find cool stuff for me to read.

Maybe we can use Coffee Corner discussions also to post links to interesting blogs.

CC is my landing page now, followed by a draft blog with more links.

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In fairness to that article, I don't think it's a direct implication that Millennials are "non-employees". And at least the author was kind enough to put the term in quotations (makes me think of Dr Evil saying "lasers"). The sad "read between the lines" is the risk that secure jobs with permanency and workers rights is disappearing as we move to a more "contingent workforce" where everyone is a commodity and a service offering. I am such a person and ticking the Millennial box here.

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Ok, it's time for me to make the question: which blog?

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The Millennials blog, which Coleen mentions, is: Millennials, Social, and FOMO: Why Businesses Need to Rethink How They Go to Market

For the FOMO one - Jelena provided a link.

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As a millenial, I'm more annoyed than anyone about all the posts about "how to work with millenials" and "everything you need to know about millenials" and "what millenials mean for the workforce" and "did you know we're being invaded by an alien species called millenials?" I am just a working mom who wants a stable income and enough flexibility to spend time with my kids. I don't need an office kegerator or ping pong tables or slides to get my work done. I need peace and quiet and support from my team and my management. Seriously. Enough already.

All these posts tell me is that when I walk into a room (be it an interview or a meeting), you (authors & consumers of such blogs) have already made at least 10 judgements about me before I even say a word (and I'm not talking about judging my clothes, hair, makeup, weight, or all the other things WOMEN get judged for from the first glance). Here's an idea: treat us like employees who want to do a good job and get paid for our work and want to have a life outside of the office and who want our life's work to be meaningful. I don't think any of those traits are particular to millenials and I sure as hell don't think that's too much to ask.

-A jaded millenial in a country that just elected Trump as our new leader. God help us.

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Bingo. I'm kind of a tweener and generally lean more towards the previous generation but what you say is exactly what I hear and see from your (our?) generation in the workplace.

*A slide would be pretty cool though. Maybe Trump can mandate slides in all office buildings?

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The other candidate has done actions that Americans are sitting in jail for. Options weren't too good either way :P

But I have to agree, being from the same age group, articles on millennials are over hyped. I can't imagine everyone takes what's written seriously though, so there's some bright side.

*and I would take that slide too ...

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Spot on. You are summarising exactly how I feel about these blogs

They are written about the youngest of the generation (and even that is insulting to someone who is new to the workforce and still learning the ways). Based on generation definition, the oldest is 36. I think there are a lot of 36 year old people with other priorities in life that aren't entirely focused on self-gratification

Amusing that this status update in Coffee Corner is getting more traffic and interaction than the actual articles.

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Wait! Do you want to be paid for your job? But us millennials are so eager and happy to work for glory! Just give us a segway to go from an office to another! Or not?


As I replied in that thread, I found very difficult (being a 1981 millennial) to get any contact point with someone born in 1992 or, worst, in 1999: i got 2 kids, a loan for my house and feel damn old, things someone born in 1999 cannot EVEN think!

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The positive fact about Trump is my USA friends and contact will stop to make fun of us Italians for Berlusconi....

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Just wait you guys, in a couple of years you'll also be "old news". Imagine SCN 2025:

"The recent survey by Woop Dee Doo Inc. indicates that managers have no idea how to attract the Zoolennial workers. The survey reveals shocking facts that new generation expects decent pay for their work. They also prefer office environment that does not make them want to kill themselves and their neighbor who leaves their iPhone 17 ringing on the desk. Other interesting findings: Zoolennials would rather be healthy and rich than sick and poor. The survey results sent a ripple across the talent management industry landscape. "We will need to rethink our strategy of making the employees work more while paying them less. if we want to stay competitive" replied Scrooge McDuck, CEO."

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Ok, Ive read this thread and have just one question to ask...

what is a Millennial? I can honestly say i've never heard that term before.

Ian

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Wikipedia explains it

Basically everyone born between 1980 and 2000, like those 20 years where exactly the same...

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thanks for that! I had no idea. Rules me out from being one then. :)

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Pretty much the same age group as "gen Y" which some would perceive as "gen whine".

Youngest in workforce but articles keep targeting the younger group of the demographic as a representation of the entire group. I'm 1983 year so I get frustrated by these articles.

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