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The new Community menu is .... awkward ?

Is that just my imagination?

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  • May 16, 2017 at 07:00 AM

    What do you mean exactly by awkward?

    It is slightly inconvenient, if you use a track-point, but it is not that bad...

  • May 16, 2017 at 11:00 AM

    It is a bit frustrating that the "Get Started" button has disappeared from the menu bar. It was really easy to refer people to that when they get things wrong. Hiding it in the community menu, one click away, is going to (a) ensure even fewer people see it and read it, and (b) make it harder to refer said people to.

    • May 16, 2017 at 12:06 PM

      Hi Steve,

      Perhaps that link (which I agree is desired as more visible instead of buried) can be added to the new menu. After a few short difficulties (Questions & Answers was not obviously a link), I am able to use this for my purposes and consider it an improvement over its predecessor in most regards.

      Cheers, Mike

      • May 16, 2017 at 12:33 PM

        I thought, that we have the link in the new menu: is it not the same as in "Quick Start Guide"?

        I am ashamed to admit, but I cannot remember where 'Get Started' lead to...

        • May 16, 2017 at 03:22 PM

          hehe, I only clicked it yesterday as it was mentioned to have the "SAP gold" allready - never payed attention to it before...

        • May 16, 2017 at 03:35 PM

          Quick start guide = getting started. You can also (as a non-moderator) see "Get Started" in the Actions menu now, which is also now available to all users, logged in or not, on all Community pages:

  • May 16, 2017 at 02:55 PM

    I find this menu helpful...

    Sometimes people don't like the change but nothing they can do to stop it... better to keep it up with the change.. :)

    • May 18, 2017 at 04:02 PM

      I'm curious - in what way is it helpful exactly?

      • May 18, 2017 at 08:48 PM

        upgrade windows XP to windows 10

        • May 19, 2017 at 05:19 AM

          Please don't open this can of worms...

          In many cases this is the worst alternative, which you could recommend to someone with an old laptop. :)

          I don't know... probably the menu is useful to newcomers, but for now I am keeping my draft blog with links for navigation purposes, because I am not good enough with Greasemonkey.

        • May 19, 2017 at 02:21 PM

          You have not really answered my question - what specifically is helpful?

          I don't have Windows 10 but have been largely unimpressed with Windows since 98 TBH. Every time they just move stuff around and dumb it down, which makes it more annoying for someone who actually knows how to use their PC.

          • May 19, 2017 at 02:54 PM

            I think they are trying to improve something but they are learning as they go.

            • May 22, 2017 at 01:12 PM

              And this is helpful to you how? OK, I give up...

              But this eerily reminds me of "new site looks great" comments during Open Beta. The negative feedback was very detailed but the "thumbs up" crowd would never provide any specific information. ("What exactly did you like about the new UI? [Crickets]")

              I'll gladly give the SCN team pat on the back when they deliver an actual improvement. At this time I just don't feel an award for "trying" is in order, sorry.

    • May 18, 2017 at 04:19 PM

      Yes, I also don't mind the menu (and even the yellow bar). Bigger problem is the value of target page (and missing link to Q&A on mobile!!!)

      Best regards

      Bartosz

  • May 16, 2017 at 03:25 PM

    FWIW, this went into effect for the entire site. And while I understand the criticisms (interesting discussions here

    https://blogs.sap.com/2017/05/11/get-ready-for-the-mega-menu/ and here

    https://answers.sap.com/questions/199879/new-top-menu-flashes-a-bit-too-much.html), I'd like to think that it's a step in the right direction. When Gali teased that the mega menu was coming (https://blogs.sap.com/2017/04/11/mapping-the-journey-ahead/), she said that it was meant to make navigation easier (with the intent of making content easier to find in the process).

    That doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement...but some of it is outside of our control, as the menu is applicable to the entire site. We can always pass along comments and criticism to the larger UX/UI team though (as Jamie said she would here https://answers.sap.com/questions/199879/new-top-menu-flashes-a-bit-too-much.html).

    Also, to answer the "getting started" question...that information is indeed accessible from the larger Quick Start Guide icon in the mega menu. To answer Veselina directly -- yes, the old "Get Started" link and the new "Quick Start Guide" are pretty much the same, leading to https://www.sap.com/community/getting-started.html. In fact, the "Get Started" link still exists in the +Actions menu on appropriate pages. So I believe new members still have several options for getting to that information.

    • May 16, 2017 at 04:04 PM

      You know... nobody reads the manual.... until it is too late to read the manual. :)

      I have mixed feelings about this whole get started thing - on one hand, if you need a manual to use the site, you probably need to reconsider your career choices, on the other hand - I admit using search engines to figure out what some managed tags mean...

      I found my old e-mail for SCN registration and there are links to getting started space.

      Do new users get similar links via e-mail upon registering? If yes, then they have even more choices (if they really wish to read before jumping in).

      • May 16, 2017 at 04:22 PM

        I worked on that registration email last year -- so I hope people still get it! :) (I even had to prepare an email that went to people who registered during the content freeze -- when we were making the transition from SCN to SAP Community. That message only lived from October 4 to 9. Wonder how many people got it. Good times.)

        As far as I know, new members still get a welcome email with helpful links. But keep in mind that back in the day, you registered for SCN. Nowadays you register for SAP.com. So the current welcome letter has short explanations for various sections of the site, along with links to pages with more information. There is a section dedicated to SAP Community, but I believe the link takes people to our landing page.

  • May 16, 2017 at 04:11 PM

    Fun fact: The "Mega Menu" seems to use more screen width than the usual page contents (on my office box)... quite unusual for a menu element...

    But alas, where's my fries and big coke?

    • May 16, 2017 at 05:05 PM

      We heard you wanted to 'supersize that' = extra big menu. :)

      • May 19, 2017 at 02:55 PM

        I really like new menu...

        • May 19, 2017 at 05:25 PM

          Glad to hear, Yogesh! I think it's an improvement too. We're always looking for ways to continue to improve on what's offered in the menu selections, but the new structure is a benefit for us in terms of offering more of what people are looking for in an easy to access way.

          • May 19, 2017 at 07:15 PM

            I am agreed on your comment and I already said before... "Better to keep it up with the change"

            I have no complaint about anything slowly but we are getting there....

  • May 20, 2017 at 08:59 PM

    Unfortunately, I have to agree. It might be just my limited oversight, but somehow the grouping and order looks random in parts to me. I am not sure whether this is the result of a true Design Thinking exercise or more likely a traditional insight out approach. If it was the latter, how about a Design Thinking session with the most active participants to create a truly desirable SCN experience?

    • May 22, 2017 at 01:20 PM

      My thoughts exactly. And it's not just the Community menu, it's all over. Just for the giggles, I explored some items on the Products menu. This is the very first item, for example:

      First of all - where is "Digital Core"? I got news for the marketing department - no one will ever adapt this "Digital Core" term. It makes no sense to the customers and we still use Basis, so just let it go.

      Second - this makes it look as if S/4HANA is only for the large enterprises. But, in fact, if anyone clicks on "Midsize", there are 2 versions of S/4HANA too. Huh?

      And this is just one small piece. There are things like why IoT is paired with "supply chain"? Does it not apply to other products? You could put sensors on people too, you know.

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