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Prevent people deleting posts.....

Rejeesh Haridas left a comment on your post I would use an ALV grid.

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Yet when I go to it the whole discussion has been deleted and cannot be found. As has been stated in many posts, this is unacceptable practice - why do they do it ????. Surely this can be prevented ???

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Feb 28, 2017 at 10:13 AM
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does people include moderators?

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It might do.... I suppose a mod could delete a post for a myriad of reasons but then that leaves the person who got the notification wondering what is going on.

And while I've got your attention, I've been meaning to ask you are you the Jurgen on the Hercules message boards. ?

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unfortunately it does, while the OP gets the message, but this is not really different to old SCN. I would prefer to remove those items from the activity streams too. However, once email notifications are available then you get your email and can't access the content.

No, I am not Jurgen in any other board, per board a different name ;-)

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Can we be sure a "page not found" does mean the question was deleted? Or could it also be an access/storage/whatever system problem?

(Just asking...)

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no you can't

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And why would we be thinking it's an access/storage/whatever problem ?

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don't know, maybe after I tell you that I can access it.

There is only one message that appears no matter if you can't access it because you are not a moderator or it can't be accessed because the repository is no longer available (like for the SCN documents) ,

and we have still the situation that some posts are lost in Nirwana and will only come back if the user posts his answer again.

We can't distinguish the reason and I'm not certain either if you would want info like "stuck in pre-moderation" "hided by moderator" be shown to others in case you are affected yourself

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Richard, I just wanted to hint at the fact that some of the "lost contents" is not due to mis-behaving users but to "the system". And Juergen names further access/permission aspects to count in.

If it is not necessarily the users deleting their answer but other reasons then it won't help to blame the former.

Of course, if it is a mix of several reasons, and us non-mods can't distinguish them, it does not really invite to contribute to something that might go out of scope for whaever reasons.

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Hi Volker,

I understood your hint - I was just trying to poke Jurgen into elaborating a bit more. :-)

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Already discussed here: https://answers.sap.com/articles/120720/status-update-different-day-same-pet-peevepeople-d.html

This seems to be the moderator activity. Don't reply to the FAQ/RTFM/"do my job" questions, click Alert Moderator instead. I wouldn't expect a serious question behind such title.

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Although your last reply there ("back to the discussion subject") has not triggered further discussion, unfortunately - for me it has not been proved either that normal users are actually able to delete their questions once those have answers.

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Hi, Volker:

I'm afraid that you are correct. While I can confirm that in this case a moderator did in fact delete the question (the poster did not), the situation remains that users can indeed delete questions that have been answered/commented on. That's a bug still being worked out.

As always, I'll post when the issue has been resolved.

Best regards,

--Jerry

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Jerry, thanks for the clarification.

Although I do now feel somewhat dumb: For my own few questions (which happen to have answers), I don't see a button to delete these, the action menu only offers "Edit", "See revisions" (in case I had edited), "Redirect" and "Reopen"/"Close". Poor me.

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Hi, Volker:

I probably should clarify the issue.

I believe only a moderator can delete an entire conversation.

The poster, however, can use "Edit" to go in and delete text from the question (essentially removing the question itself by replacing it with the 10-character minimum).

At least that's the sense I get reading this thread: https://answers.sap.com/articles/120720/status-update-different-day-same-pet-peevepeople-d.html

Jürgen gave an example of that (but maybe you saw it...as I saw you responded in that thread in a few places).

So maybe the bug is better described as: people can edit their questions after it is answered/commented on. This creates all kinds of problems -- beyond just deleting the text. Posters can go in and leave nasty comments (if they don't like the answers), or even change the question so that the answers no longer make sense.

So no reason to feel dumb. I just did a poor job of explaining.

Sorry for any confusion.

--Jerry

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Ah I see - for those efforts (unless they are prohibited), it would be nice to be able to see other's revisions... But I guess that has been discussed here before.

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