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author's profile photo Gregory Misiorek

what i noticed before finishing my cup of coffee

some of the regulars may have noticed or maybe not, but SAP have just finished a quarter and started a new one. for cloud, it means that some services have been deprecated or are no longer available and definitely not supported, and it also means that new services will now be promoted, tested, and eventually become licensed products. one of the discontinued services that have become a full commercial product is the so called 'Full Stack Web IDE'. it was announced as long ago as August 2020 but it's only been last week that this was finally implemented, i.e. service discontinued in trial accounts, after presumably testers had moved to BAS.

some of you may wonder, why bring it up here and not as a question, a github issue, or a blog post. first, questions are moving very quickly, so they get lost in the stream. second, github issues are tutorials specific, and the database connections are dispersed across multiple tutorials. third, blog posts can get mislabeled very easily and thus moved out of sight for a relevant audience very quickly. so back to the coffee corner. things are very quiet here, people read a post, leave a comment or not but can always come back to the discussion even after a long break from it.

oops, wordpress 'ate my paragraph', so let me sum it up here for you. don't use WebIDE even if it can be worked around but if you think this topic is irrelevant to your job think of HANA competition like Oracle, MSSQL and dozens of relational and NoSQL databases out there.

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  • Apr 15 at 01:57 PM

    Let me clarify some points and hopefully help with any confusion around the SAP Web IDE in general.

    First the terminology here is very important. We have two completely separate products – one named

    SAP Web IDE for SAP HANA and one named SAP Web IDE Full-Stack. It gets further confusing because often the shorter name, SAP Web IDE, is used interchangeably for both of these tools. For example even in the help:

    That leads to a lot of confusion because statements are made using the name SAP Web IDE, when really they only apply to either SAP Web IDE for SAP HANA or SAP Web IDE Full-Stack.

    But it in the end it’s really important to understand that while SAP Web IDE for SAP HANA and SAP Web IDE Full-Stack look very similar and even share some common code; are ultimately separate products with different overall capabilities and different support and licenses.

    SAP Web IDE for SAP HANA is delivered as part of SAP HANA on premise and SAP HANA, express edition versions. It’s scope of functionality is to only support development of SAP HANA database and XS Advanced based applications.

    SAP Web IDE Full-Stack is delivered as a complete development tool for greater portion of the functional scope of SAP BTP (formerly SAP Cloud Platform). While supporting HANA development scenarios it also supports CAP, Mobile, and non-HANA Fiori scenarios as well (just to name a few).

    So now to the discussion of what is ending and what isn’t. SAP Web IDE for SAP HANA remains the primary development tool for HANA on premise and HANA, express edition. There is no Business Application Studio support for these solutions. No announcement of deprecation or end of support for SAP Web IDE for SAP HANA has been made.

    SAP Web IDE Full-Stack has been announced as no further investment. However it remains supported for customers that have already purchased a license. As of the end of Q1 2021, no new licenses will be sold. It has been removed from the SAP BTP free trial.

    It is replaced in full by the SAP Business Application Studio which supports development of mobile, Fiori/UI5, CAP, and HANA scenarios primarily for the scope of deployment to SAP BTP. Therefore this is Cloud based development for Cloud based deployment (with a minor expectation for UI5 development that can still be deployed to on premise S/4 systems).

    So if you are using HANA 2.x on premise code line then you are still using SAP Web IDE for SAP HANA and nothing has really changed. On the other hand, if you are using SAP HANA Cloud or SAP HANA As A Service on SAP BTP, then if you have a license for SAP Web IDE Full-Stack you can continue to use it. However SAP recommends that even these customers consider moving to the SAP Business Application Studio. If you don’t have a current license or if you are a trial user, then you must use the SAP Business Application Studio.

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