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I have got a new badge !

Hi

this one is beautiful, the name is "Diligent Solver October 2019", but I have a big question, Who is in charge of creating all these badges ? who has all these ideas of badges names ? of badges pictures ?

and could we exchange our badges with a goodies ? :)

My coffee break will be better with a mug "Diligent Solver October 2019"

(and do not say there is no goodies! I have a tshirt from SDN)

Best regards

Fred

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45 Comments

  • Oct 28, 2019 at 01:43 PM

    I think the logistics of shipping physical objects was overwhelming, and that's why we get badges. Imagine having to find the physical address of hundreds of people and then ship the T-shirts/mugs out to them individually.

    Yes, we did get shirts back in the SDN days, but that was a really long time ago!

    Congratulations on your Diligent Solver badge! Maybe you can get a screen shot of it, and get a t-shirt on your own? Let me know how you make out, maybe I'd like a mug with all my badges on it :-)

    • Oct 28, 2019 at 04:07 PM

      "Imagine having to find the physical address of hundreds of people and then ship the T-shirts/mugs out to them individually."

      Isn't this exactly why companies use SAP? To make logistical nightmares possible and easier?

      It's nice to receive physical objects, I still have the t-shirts as well as a top contributor badge (somewhere...). And I was steadily on my way to the leather jacket when they discontinued the program :D

      • Oct 28, 2019 at 04:47 PM

        Rob, good point! And I said 'I think the logistics...' so I don't have any real information to prove that point. I was thinking about the upcoming holidays and how expensive shipping costs will be for little old me.

        I agree with both you and Frederic Girod that the physical objects are very nice, and it's fun to put on your old SDN T-shirt sometimes!

      • Oct 30, 2019 at 09:04 PM

        My orange SDN shirt is preserved in the archival quality box and is too precious to wear. :)

        • Oct 31, 2019 at 06:32 AM

          My tshirt was maybe older, it was something like SDN reach 10k members, light blue color.

    • Nov 06, 2019 at 09:45 PM

      I would really like to see SAP take some of their charitable donation money and funnel it here. Let people designate a personal non-profit in their profile. Maybe even a special tab for it so you can explain why its important to you. Then give cash awards to the charity based on certain badges or at the end of the year.

      Charities could be vetted through one of the clearinghouses like Benevity.com. SAP might even use something like that for their employees to contribute through for matching funds already. It's what my company does.

      This seems like a win/win for everyone. SAP gets some added value from funds they are planning to contribute anyway.

      Members get some recognition for themselves and their causes. But wouldn't be actually getting paid.

      And many smaller non-profits that struggle for funding could get funds that often go to large non-profits that have full-time fundraisers and massive advertising programs, like the cancer societies, the Red Cross or Red Crescent, etc. etc.

      @ Caroleigh Deneen Audrey Stevenson

      Craig

      • Nov 07, 2019 at 10:15 PM

        Hi Craig, the idea of donations is one that comes up periodically, always with a different twist. It's an idea that's being considered as we look as at ongoing improvements to our reputation program.

  • Oct 29, 2019 at 05:12 PM

    Hi Frederic, I'm so happy to hear you like and appreciate the badges! Audrey Stevenson and I work together on the mission names and badge designs. She is out for a few days, but can comment on badge bling upon her return, as the rise and fall from SCN days was before my time.

    • Oct 30, 2019 at 07:09 AM

      Hi Caroleigh,

      It is a good job!

      I am always impressed by the job I am unable to achieved

  • Oct 30, 2019 at 09:04 PM

    I'm not sure why showing badges next to the posts or when hovering over profile pic was not implemented on SCN after 2016. We did have visible silver/gold/diamond badges before that, I thought it was pretty cool.

    Personally, I'd like to cash in my Karma for something like Reddit gold that I could go around and gift to the specific posts. That would be neat.

  • Nov 06, 2019 at 06:52 PM

    Hi All,

    Re physical rewards, Susan Keohan is right that there were issues around shipping, customs, and the resources needed to handle those. But that wasn't the only thing; it becomes even more complicated when you talk about different countries and regulations all over the world.

    That doesn't mean we aren't continually thinking of new/different ways to reward our members for their accomplishments, and we are always listening to your ideas, including the ones like Jelena's, above, in this thread. The wheels are always turning...

    Re the badges, Caroleigh Deneen is always so modest. Yes, she and I work on the mission names and requirements and badge ideas together, but she comes up with the amazing designs for almost all of the badges herself. She deserves all of the credit for that effort and artistic talent!

    • Nov 07, 2019 at 06:26 AM

      it becomes even more complicated when you talk about different countries and regulations all over the world.

      I could imagine how difficult it is

      And what about the visible badges around the name Jelena Perfiljeva reminded us ? There is Champion, Mentor, Moderator, SAP. Could be "Friendly user" :)

      • Nov 07, 2019 at 10:07 PM

        At this time, that specific idea is not something we are implementing, but all reputation-related ideas get taken into account as we move forward, and in one way or another they feed into our plans for continually enhancing recognition of our members' achievements.

        • Nov 08, 2019 at 10:37 PM

          What an eloquent way to say "ain't gonna happen", Audrey! :)

          • Nov 12, 2019 at 11:36 PM

            It's not actually that black and white, Jelena Perfiljeva. I'm serious when I say all ideas get taken into account when we decide what to do next in our reputation program. I just can't be more specific, so I have to leave it at a kind of vague (or "eloquent") statement, y'know?

  • Nov 06, 2019 at 09:36 PM

    I could never earn one of those.

    Very few people properly accept and close their questions in the forums I monitor and respond to. Maybe one in ten or twenty.

    I'd easily earn it if they did.

    BTW.. I think the requirements are backwards on this. It requires that 1) you answer at least 20 questions, and 2) that you have 25 answers upvoted or accepted.

    Well if you met #2, you have to have met #1. Why bother even having the first requirement?

    Shouldn't it be to answer at least 25 and have 20 accepted or upvoted?

    Craig

    • Nov 07, 2019 at 06:18 AM

      Yes, there are so many questions with right answer and never closed. But, for my point of view, the team make a great job to clean the forum. There are the points gived by other people because they are agree with you, there is a limit of possible open question by people, ...

      Maybe we could propose to send email to people having open question

    • Nov 07, 2019 at 08:46 AM

      To my mind the logic is also not 100% correct. There is a big difference between "Accepted" and "Upvoted" answer...

    • Nov 07, 2019 at 10:18 PM

      Hi Craig, the first requirement, to answer 20 questions, means answering 20 questions in this month; we want to know this mission is being achieved by someone who is currently actively answering questions. The accepts and/or upvotes requirement, however, is not restricted to answers posted in this month. Hope that clarifies.

      • Nov 08, 2019 at 04:27 PM

        Ok. So you are saying that if I answer a question in October it would count towards answered questions in October. But if it was marked as accepted on November 1st, it would count as a correct answer on the November badge.

        That's what I was understanding.

        I guess it's a splitting of hairs. I'm assuming that most questions get marked answered within the first few days after posting or they never get marked as answered. So if you got 25 answers marked as answered, you probably answered at least 20 during that same month.

        But I get it.

        Craig

        • Nov 08, 2019 at 04:30 PM

          In most cases it's related to upvoted answers (not accepted)! A lot of answers from previous months are upvoted...

      • Nov 25, 2019 at 09:07 PM

        Audrey Stevenson

        So when I checked earlier this month I had 39 answered and 8 accepted for the month of November. (its in this thread on the 11th).

        Today I checked and I see this.

        5 accepted! 3 less than I had on the 11th!

        And still only 39 answered!! I answered quite a few more between the 11th and today!!! The exact number still answered? That can't be right.

        scn.png (filters accepted answers, all forums this month)

        scn-2.png (filter all answers, all forums, this month)

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        • Nov 25, 2019 at 09:18 PM

          Ok. I think there are some bugs in the filters for content.

          Audrey Stevenson

          It you filter "This week" it looks at the last 7 days. So that is a rolling number for the last 7 days. Not this week.

          The "This month" is including answers done in October. So it may also be doing a 30 day rolling period and not the current month. And I think for some reason it is capping out at 39 possible entries. At least for me it is. I mean I had 39 on November 11th, and today on the 25th I still have 39!

          The "This year" is including answers from 2018. It also appears to be doing the filter on a rolling 365 days and not the calendar year.

          On the bright side the "Today" filter seems to work!

          I hope the logic for the badge isn't using this same logic!

          Craig

          • Nov 26, 2019 at 11:56 PM

            I think the filters should be re-labeled. "This week" would be from Monday. The dictionary defines the week as "any of a series of 7-day cycles used in various calendars" which clearly is not the same as "last 7 days".

            By the way, I bet "today" is also "the last 24 hours". Been there. :)

            Just label the filters by what they actually do. "Last 7 days", "last 30 days", etc.

        • Dec 06, 2019 at 12:43 AM

          Hi Craig S, Jelena Perfiljeva,

          The filters are rolling time periods, not calendar-specific time periods, as you deduced. I've passed on your feedback about the filter naming to the responsible team.

          Regarding trying to see which accepted answers "count" towards the Diligent Solver missions, you won't be able to determine that using the content filters in the profile; when you filter for "accepted", the date shown for each accepted answer is the answer publication date, not the acceptance date.

    • Nov 08, 2019 at 10:49 PM

      I've just checked out of curiosity and out of my 699 answers (this is for Jelena The Second only) 99 are accepted. This is actually not a bad ratio.

      By the way, as I was sorting answers by most upvoted (5 votes in my case), stumbled upon good old What Do You Do (WDYD). It's still open! :)

      • Nov 11, 2019 at 03:48 PM

        Was this for the year? Month?

        I checked mine for the year. 321 answers, 54 accepted. Seems similar.

        For November, 39 answers, 8 accepted so far.

        Craig

        • Nov 11, 2019 at 08:33 PM

          This is since I opened second profile, so May 2017.

          • Nov 12, 2019 at 07:29 AM

            The status seems to have change after 2017, I have no answer accepted before 2017 but I have some Best answer.

            I see "only" 170 answers in my profile, I thought it was really more than that.

            Looks really strange more than 4000 comments and only 170 answers.

            • Nov 13, 2019 at 06:09 PM

              Hmm, it says 164 answers now, so are the answers disappearing (e.g. OP deletes the question) or is the profile actually showing only X days worth of history?

      • Nov 25, 2019 at 09:23 PM

        Can you check your filters on your content "Answers"?

        Jelena Perfiljeva

        See my reply above to Audrey above.

        Craig

        • Nov 26, 2019 at 11:50 PM

          Hi Craig, there were no filters in my case. Not sure if Frederic simply rounded up to 170. 164 is what I saw by simply entering his profile and navigating to content -> answers. There are no filters by default.

          It shows 196 now but when I count the answers posted since November 13th (date of my comment), there are 33, so this seems consistent.

          • Nov 27, 2019 at 06:45 PM

            When I meant the filters, I mean the "this week", "this month" calculations.

            But you addressed that up above. How these are labelled are not really what they do.

            Which is bad because you really count your progress for the month towards the monthly badge. Or get an accurate account for the year. (unless you run it on Dec 31st!).

      • Nov 27, 2019 at 03:40 PM

        271 out of 1111 for me. But I took care to close all my 21 questions! :)

    • Nov 21, 2019 at 08:40 AM

      In the last 10 years, many times, I have highlighted this Craig S but unfortunately, that is not happening in SCN and as you said, predominently, members keep asking so many questions and when they are answered, they don't have the courtesy to accept the right answer and close.

  • Nov 08, 2019 at 02:01 PM

    I thought the bee will be colored but no, you change the background color.

    So Caroleigh Deneen, why didn't you full color this bee ?

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    • Nov 08, 2019 at 02:20 PM

      First, congratulations on already earning the Diligent Solver in November already! I didn't fully color the bee for continuity with the overall badge set. When we switched platforms in 2016, we still wanted to still have a cohesive style with the SCN badges. If you look at the set you earned in 2013 and 2014, those were from SCN platform, and our designer at the time established the white icon as the standard. When we changed platforms, we re-freshed the badges so they were up to date with new branding guidelines, but retained the white background/stroke for continuity since they were all still displayed in the same profile.

      You'll find most badges use an icon with a white background or stroke. The gradient is a newish SAP brand element, so I pull that in when it works well, to balance the new with the old.

      When we decided to update the Diligent Solver set so each month varied (a good suggestion from Kaushik Debnath), we played with different approaches, taking into consideration our SAP brand color palette.

      We landed on keeping the bee the same, swapping the background color and stamping the month our preferred option. I think it works well:)

  • Nov 09, 2019 at 08:48 AM

    At the time of climate change, if one considers that it's mostly due to all that fossil fuel burning, mostly due to modern consumerism...

    I would say: no!, we really don't need goodies.

    But maybe we should also think globally, goodies is maybe not the worst problem ;-)

  • Dec 10, 2019 at 03:43 PM

    Nice one, I doesn't know the story. thank you for the knowledge

    WikiPedia

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